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Your Legislators May 23, 2013

Your Legislators May 23, 2013

>>> "YOUR LEGISLATORS" IS MADE  
POSSIBLE IN PART BY THE GENEROUS.  FINANCIAL SUPPORT OF MAPE      
MEMBERS, MAKING MINNESOTA CLEAN.  WATERS, SAFE COMMUNITIES,      
QUALITY EDUCATION AND VETERANS.  CARE HAPPEN.

                 
WE WORK HARD FOR MINNESOTANS.  MINNESOTA FARMERS UNION,        
COMMITTED TO HELPING DEVELOP AND.  STRENGTHEN MINNESOTA RURAL      
COMMUNITIES SINCE 1929.  ON THE WEB AT MFU.ORG.

       
>>> LIVE FROM ST. PAUL,  MINNESOTA, WE WELCOME YOU TO    
ANOTHER SEASON OF "YOUR.  LEGISLATORS", A ROUND TABLE    
DISCUSSION FEATURING STATE.  LAWMAKERS WHO ARE PREPARED TO  
ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS AND.

DISCUSS IMPORTANT ISSUES        
AFFECTING CITIZENS OF MINNESOTA.  >>> NOW, HERE IS YOUR MODERATOR
FOR TONIGHT'S PROGRAM, BARRY.  ANDERSON.                      
>> GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO.

THIS WEEK'S VERSION OF "YOUR    
LEGISLATORS", AND AS IT HAPPENS,  IT WILL BE OUR LAST PROGRAM OF  
THE YEAR, AND WE WANT TO THANK.  YOU NOT ONLY FOR GIVING US A    
SHARE OF YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.  BUT IN ALL THE WEEKS THAT      
PRECEDED OUR PROGRAM THIS.  EVENING AS THE LEGISLATURE HAS  
GONE ABOUT THE PEOPLE'S.

BUSINESS, AND TONIGHT WE HAVE A
DISTINGUISHED PANEL OF GUESTS TO.  HELP NOT ONLY UNRAVEL THE      
MYSTERIES OF ST. PAUL AS WE DO.  EACH WEEK, BUT ALSO HELP US    
UNRAVEL EVERYTHING THAT THE.

LEGISLATURE HAS DONE.          
I WANT TO REMIND YOU THIS IS.  YOUR PROGRAM.                  
WE WANT YOU TO CALL IN WITH YOUR.

QUESTIONS OR SEND US            
ELECTRONICALLY, AND THE.  INSTRUCTIONS WILL APPEAR ON YOUR
SCREEN, AND WE WILL SEE THEY GET.  TO THE PANEL AS WE GO THROUGH  
THE ISSUES OF THE DAY.  WE BEGIN BY INTRODUCING THAT    
PANEL, AND I TURN TO MY.

IMMEDIATE LEFT, AND WE DISCUSSED
EARLIER YOU WERE WITH US AT THE.  BEGINNING OF THE YEAR TO TALK  
ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED, THE.  MAJORITY LEADER DISTRICT 64A,  
ERIN MURPHY.  TELL US A LITTLE BIT YOURSELF.


>> I LIVED IN ST. PAUL SINCE.  1988, CAME FROM WISCONSIN AND A
PROUD MINNESOTAN.  I HAVE TWO DAUGHTERS IN COLLEGE,
AND I'M IN THE FOURTH TERM OF.

THE LEGISLATURE.                
>> ALSO JOINING US -- I ACCUSED.  YOU OF BEING A FAIRLY FREQUENT  
GUEST AND YOU REMINDED ME IT'S.  BEEN A NUMBER OF YEARS.

       
KATY SIEBEN.  TELL OUR VIEWERS ABOUT YOURSELF
AND SINCE YOU HAVEN'T BEEN WITH.  US THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS,    
GIVE OUR VIEWERS A LITTLE.  BACKGROUND, TOO.

             
>> THIS IS MY 11th YEAR IN THE.  STATE LEGISLATURE AND SERVED    
FOUR YEARS IN THE HOUSE AND.  SWITCHED OVER TO THE SENATE, AND
MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE THREE.  KIDS, AND I HAVE MY DAUGHTER,  
GRETA ABOUT 6 WEEKS AGO ON.

EASTER SUNDAY, AND IT ALSO      
HAPPENED TO BE THE DAY BEFORE WE.  WENT BACK.                      
WE HAD OUR EASTER RECESS RIGHT.  AT THAT TIME, SO IT WAS KIND OF
GOOD TIMING IN THAT REGARD.

HAPPY TO BE HERE, THOUGH.      
>> WE ARE DELIGHTED TO HAVE YOU.  WITH US, AND WE WILL ASK YOUR  
DAUGHTER WHAT SHE THINKS OF THE.  LEGISLATURE, BUT IT WILL BE A  
WHILE BEFORE SHE HAS AN OPINION.

ALSO JOINING US, REGULAR GUEST  
AND HERE EARLY IN THE YEAR FOR.  THE FIRST PROGRAM EDEN PRAIRIE  
SENATOR HANN.  TELL US ABOUT YOURSELVES.      
>> I'M FROM EDEN PRAIRIE BEFORE.

COMING TO THE SENATE.          
THIS IS MY 11th YEAR AS WELL.  SERVED ON THE SCHOOL BOARD IN  
EDEN PRAIRIE FOR 8 YEARS, AND.  HAD A LONG CAREER IN FOOD      
MANUFACTURING BUSINESS, AND BOTH.

CHILDREN, OUR YOUNGEST IS STILL
AT HOME.  HE'S IN HIGH SCHOOL, BUT JUST  
GLAD TO BE HERE AGAIN.  I HOPE THIS GOES WELL.          
>> YOU ARE HERE TO MAKE SURE.

THAT IT DOES GO WELL.          
WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.  FINALLY, ALSO, YOU WERE WITH US
AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SESSION.  AS WELL FROM DISTRICT 31A CROWN,
I REMEMBER BECAUSE I ASKED YOU.

WHERE CROWN WAS.                
KURT DAUDT.  TELL OUR VIEWERS ABOUT YOU.    
>> I AM FROM CROWN, AND USUALLY.

NOBODY KNOWS WHERE THAT IS.    
>> OUR VIEWERS ARE PAYING.  ATTENTION, THOUGH, SO THEY WILL
REMEMBER.  >> GOOD, GOOD.

               
I'M IN MY SECOND TERM IN THE.  MINNESOTA HOUSE AND CURRENTLY  
SERVE AS MINORITY LEADER, AND.  JUST SO PEOPLE KNOW A LITTLE BIT
WHERE MY DISTRICT IS, IT'S ABOUT.  50 MILES STRAIGHT NORTH OF      
MINNEAPOLIS, COMMUNITIES OF.

ST. FRANCIS, ZIMMERMAN, AND OAK
GROVE, THAT AREA.  >> WE HAVE GOT A LOT OF SPECIFIC
QUESTIONS FROM VIEWERS, BUT IN.  FAIRNESS TO OUR PANEL, AND IT'S
A LONG SESSION, MAYBE YOU COULD.

TAKE A MINUTE OR TWO AND        
SUMMARIZE WHAT YOU THINK WAS.  MOST SIGNIFICANT ABOUT WHAT    
HAPPENED HERE, COMMENTS ABOUT.  SPECIFIC MATTERS THAT YOU THINK
ARE -- THAT THE VIEWERS WOULD BE.  CONCERNED ABOUT, AND WE WILL    
DIVE INTO THE SPECIFIC DETAILS.

THAT VOTERS AND VIEWERS ARE    
CONCERNED ABOUT.  REPRESENTATIVE MURPHY, LET'S    
START WITH YOU.  WHY DON'T YOU TELL US A LITTLE  
BIT ABOUT WHAT YOU THINK IS MOST.  SIGNIFICANT.

                 
>> I'M PLEASED WITH THE WORK.  THAT WE DID TOGETHER IN THE    
LEGISLATURE, AND WE LISTENED.  CAREFULLY TO MINNESOTANS AS THEY
CAME TO THE ELECTION CYCLE.  THEY WERE CLEAR WHAT THEIR      
FRUSTRATIONS WERE ABOUT WHAT.

HAPPENED IN MINNESOTA,          
FRUSTRATED WITH DEFICIT AFTER.  DEFICIT, AND WE WERE CLEAR WITH
THEM THAT WE ARE GOING TO WORK.  TO TRY AND BRING SOLUTIONS THAT
WERE REAL, AND I'M HAPPY TO SAY.  WE FOLLOWED THROUGH WITH OUR    
COMMITMENT.

WEES PASSED A BUDGET WITHOUT    
GIMMICKS, AND MADE A HISTORIC.  INVESTMENT, BEGINNING IN 2014,  
THE FALL OF 2014.  HISTORIC DEVELOPMENT IN EARLY  
CHILDHOOD EDUCATION, AND THERE'S.  LOTS OF DATA AND SUPPORT FOR.

 
IF WE ARE CERPD ABOUT THE FUTURE.  OF MINNESOTA AND PROSPERITY, WE
KNOW IT'S A IN INVESTING IN.  EDUCATION.                      
WE REDUCED PROPERTY TAXES AND WE.

ALSO RAISED TAXES AND WE DID IT
FAIRLY BY RAISING INCOME TAXES.  ON THE HIGHEST EARNERS, AND    
CLOSING CORPORATE LOOPHOLES, AND.  RAISED THE CIGARETTE TAX.      
IT WAS A FAIR WAY.

BUT MOSTLY I'M PLEASED WITH THE
TONE AND THE TENOR OF THE.  LEGISLATURE.                    
I'M GLAD WE GOT THE WORK DONE,  AND I'M HEARING GREAT THINGS    
FROM THE PEOPLE OF MINNESOTA AS.  I'M STARTING TO TALK WITH THEM  
IN DIFT PARTS OF THE STATE.

>> SENATOR HANN?                
>> WE MIGHT HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF.  A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION.        
IT WAS A SIGNIFICANT SESSION,  AND FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MANY  
YEARS WE SAW THE DEMOCRAT PARTY.  IN THE HOUSE, SENATE AND        
GOVERNOR'S OFFICE, AND THEY WERE.

CERTAINLY IN A POSITION TO ENACT
THE LEGISLATION THAT THEY.  DESIRED.                        
I THINK THAT THE TAXES THAT WE.  ENACTED WERE EXCESSIVE, NOT    
NEEDED TO SOLVE THE BUDGET.

PROBLEM THAT WE FACED, AND WE  
THINK THE TWO AND A HALF BILLION.  OR SO OF TAXES AND FEES ARE IN  
EFFECT OF THE CITIZENS IN THE.  STATE.                          
WE DON'T THINK RAISING TAXES.

HELPS GROW THE ECONOMY, AND LOOK
AT THE SPENDING SIDE, WHAT WE.  REALLY SAW WAS A COMMITMENT TO  
FUND EXISTING PROGRAMS, AND WHAT.  WE NEED TO DO IS FOCUS ON THE  
FORM, AND MAKING SURE WE ARE.  SPENDING THE MONEY WE TAKE IN IN
AN EFFICIENT WAY.

I THINK WE MISSED THOSE        
OPPORTUNITIES.  IT WAS A SESSION THAT WAS      
OVERREACH AND MISSED.  OPPORTUNITIES TO DO BETTER.    
>> REPRESENTATIVE DAUDT, YOUR.

THOUGHTS.                      
>> YEAH, I THINK -- OBVIOUSLY I.  THINK THE SESSION WILL BE      
REMEMBERED FOR THE TAX INCREASES.  MORE THAN ANYTHING, AND AT A    
TIME WHEN MINNESOTA'S ECONOMY IS.

RECOVERING AND HAS BEEN        
RECOVERING, I KNOW WE WENT FROM.  UNEMPLOYMENT RATE OF 7% TWO    
YEARS AGO TO 5.3% TODAY, AND.  MINNESOTANS FEEL THAT THE      
ECONOMY IS GETTING BETTER, AND.  UNFORTUNATELY THE DEMOCRATS HAVE
DECIDED TO TAKE THIS IN A.

DIFFERENT DIRECTION AND TAKE    
MONEY OUT OF THE ECONOMY BY.  INCREASING TAXES AND I THINK    
ULTIMATELY IT'S GOING TO BE.  HARMFUL TO MINNESOTA'S ECONOMY,
AND I WOULD SAY IT'S INTERESTING.  TO ME THAT THE BUDGET THE      
REPUBLICANS PUT IN PLACE OVER.

THE LAST TWO YEARS BASICALLY GOT
GOVERNMENT OUT OF THE WAY AND.  LET MINNESOTA'S ECONOMY GROW AND
CREATE JOBS, AND AS A RESULT OF.  THAT, MINNESOTA'S BUDGET SAW    
ABOUT A $3 BILLION SURPLUS,  ACTUALLY A LITTLE MORE THAN    
THAT, IN THE CURRENT BIENNIUM.  BECAUSE THE STATE SAW EXTRA    
REVENUE AS A RESULT OF MORE.

PEOPLE WORKING, AND THAT'S A    
SOLUTION THAT REALLY BENEFITS.  ALL MINNESOTANS AND TO TAKE A  
DIFFERENT DIRECTION, I THINK, IS.  CONFUSING TO SOME AND WILL BE  
CONFUSING TO SOME, AND AT THE.  SAME TIME OVER THE LAST TWO    
YEARS, THE DEMOCRATS TALKED.

ABOUT COMPROMISE AND BALANCE,  
AND WE DIDN'T SEE A LOT OF.  COMPROMISE AND BALANCE THIS    
SESSION, AND I PERSONALLY.  BELIEVE THAT MINNESOTA IS BETTER
SERVED WHEN REPUBLICANS AND.  DEMOCRATS HAVE TO COME TO THE  
TABLE AND WORK TOGETHER.

WE DIDN'T UNFORTUNATELY HAVE A  
LOT OF THAT THIS SESSION.  THAT'S MY TWO CENTS.            
>> REPRESENTATIVE SIEBEN.  >> THANK YOU.

                 
I WOULD SAY WE ARE ACCOUNTABLE.  LEGISLATORS ARE ACCOUNTABLE TO  
THE VOTERS, AND WE HAVE SEEN.  REAL TANGIBLE RESULTS FROM THE  
LEGISLATIVE SESSION, AND THE.  NEXT ELECTION VOTERS WILL REWARD
US LEGISLATORS WHO GOT THE WORK.

DONE ON TIME, BALANCE THE BUDGET
AND INVEST IN PRIORITIES THAT WE.  CARE ABOUT.                    
FOR INSTANCE, WHAT DOES THIS.  MEAN FOR THE AVERAGE MINNESOTA  
ON THE STREET?  FOR MY NEIGHBORS, THE FOLKS IN  
MY NEIGHBORHOOD WHO HAVE A LOT.

OF YOUNG CHILDREN, THEY WON'T  
HAVE TO PAY 3400 TO SEND THEIR.  KINDERGARTENER TO ALL-DAY      
KINDERGARTEN IF THEY HAVE A NOW.  THREE-YEAR-OLD.                
IT MEANS FOR MY BABY-SITTER THAT.

HER TUITION AT THE UNIVERSITY OF
MINNESOTA WHEN SHE STARTS THERE.  AS A FRESHMAN THIS FALL WILL BE
FROZEN BECAUSE OF THE.  SIGNIFICANT EDUCATION -- HIGHER
EDUCATION INVESTMENTS WE MADE AS.  PART OF OUR BUDGET.

           
PROPERTY TAX, THERE WILL BE.  SIGNIFICANT PROPERTY TAX RELIEF,
WHETHER IT'S THROUGH THE RENTERS.  CREDIT OR PROPERTY TAX RELIEF,  
BECAUSE CITIES AND TOWNS ACROSS.  MINNESOTA, FOR EXAMPLE WILL NO  
LONGER HAVE TO PAY SALES TAX ON.

THEIR PURCHASES.                
AGAIN TO GO BACK TO WHAT I SAID.  EARLIER, IF YOU LOOK AT THE    
TANGIBLE RESULTS FROM WHAT.  MINNESOTANS ARE GOING TO SEE    
FROM THIS SESSION, I THINK THEY.

WILL BE PLEASED AND WE WILL SEE
THAT REFLECTED IN THE NEXT.  ELECTION.                      
>> VERY GOOD.  LET'S DIVE INTO SOME OF THE    
SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.

A VIEWER WANTS TO KNOW WHAT'S  
GOING ON WITH THE NEWLY ENACTED.  MINNESOTA GIFT TAX?            
WAS THERE A NEWLY ENACTED.  MINNESOTA GIFT TAX?            
ANYBODY KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT?  >> GIFT TAX?                    
NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT ONE.  >> WE WILL MOVE ON.

           
HOW ABOUT LOBBYISTS AND.  LOBBYING?                      
WE HAVE A VIEWER WHO WANTS TO.  KNOW HOW THAT WORKS WITH THE    
LEGISLATIVE PROCESS, AND THIS.  VIEWER IS CONCERNED ABOUT HOW  
MANY ARE THERE LOBBYING FOR ANY.

PARTICULAR ENTITIES.            
YOU MENTIONED TEACHERS UNIONS,  AND THERE ARE OTHER            
ORGANIZATIONS THAT ALSO HIRE.  LOBBYISTS, AND WHAT ROLE WILL  
THEY PLAY IN THE PROCESS?  LET'S START WITH YOU, SENATOR,  
WHAT DO YOU THINK?  >> I WANT TO SAY I'M A          
REGISTERED NURSE AND I LOBBIED.  FOR THE NURSES ASSOCIATION.

   
LOBBYIST BRING INFORMATION AND.  EXPERTISE TO THE LEGISLATIVE    
PROCESS, AND LEGISLATORS ARE.  CITIZENS FIRST, AND PART-TIME  
LEGISLATORS, AND WE ARE NOT.  EXPERTS ON EVERYTHING.

       
WE ARE LUCKY IF WE HAVE.  EXPERTISE ON ONE OR TWO AREAS,  
AND WE LOOK TO EACH OTHER AS.  LEGISLATORS, AND RESEARCHERS AND
ANALYSTS, BUT LOBBYISTS ALSO.  BRING REAL LIVE INFORMATION, AND
INFORMATION IS IMPORTANT IN THE.

LEGISLATURE AND SO IS INTEGRITY.
LOBBYISTS DO WELL IF THEY REMAIN.  ON THE SIDE OF THE TRUTH AND    
WORK WITH INTEGRITY AND IF THEY.  DON'T, THEIR REPUTATION BECOMES
THAT OF LESS THAN TRUSTWORTHY,  AND THERE AREN'T A LOT OF PEOPLE
THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THE.  LEGISLATURE.

                 
IT'S A PRETTY SMALL COMMUNITY,  AND SOMETIMES LIKE COLLEGE, AND
SOMETIMES LIKE HIGH SCHOOL.  BUT WE KNOW EACH OTHER, AND WE  
LOOK TO EACH OTHER, AND YOU.  LEARN THAT YOU CAN TRUST THE    
INFORMATION FROM SOME, IF NOT.  FROM ALL.

                     
BUT THEY DO PLAY AN IMPORTANT.  ROLE.                          
>> I HAVE BEEN A LOBBYIST FOR.  FULL DISCLOSURE, BUT THE 8 YEARS
I HAVE BEEN THERE,  REPRESENTATIVE MURPHY IS        
CORRECT.

LIKE A LOT OF OTHER PROFESSIONS,
THERE ARE GOOD ONES AND NOT SO.  GOOD ONES, AND YOU CAN QUICKLY  
FIND OUT WHO YOU CAN TRUST, AND.  IN THIS BUSINESS, IT IS        
IMPORTANT TO KNOW WHO YOU CAN.  TRUST AND THAT YOU HAVE TO RELY
ON THEIR INFORMATIONr AND THEIR.

WORD, AND THEY DO BRING VALUABLE
INFORMATION TO THE PROCESS, AND.  WE RELY ON THEM A GREAT DEAL BUT
WE DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING, AND.  THEY CAN BE HELPFUL.            
>> LET ME GIVE AN EXAMPLE HOW.

LOBBYISTS WERE HELPFUL THIS    
SESSION.  I CARRIED LEGISLATION THAT THE  
ATTORNEY GENERAL, LORI SWANSON.  FIRST BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION,  
WHICH THE GOVERNOR WILL SIGN.  INTO LAW, AND WILL REGULATE    
BOULION COIN DEALERS.

THEY WERE SELLING PEOPLE COINS  
AND NOT DELIVERING THEM OR THEY.  WERE NOT WORTH NEARLY WHAT THEIR
VALUE WAS, AND CERTAINLY I'M NOT.  AN EXPERT IN GOLD COINS OR THAT
INDUSTRY.  WE INTRODUCED LEGISLATION, AND  
THERE WERE LOBBYISTS THAT.

REPRESENTED SOME OF THE LARGEST
COIN DEAL ERTS I DEALERS IN MINT.  GAVE INPUT AS THE BILL WENT FRZ
COMMITTEE TO COMMITTEE, AND IN.  THE END MOST OF THEM WERE      
OPPOSED TO IT AT THE BEGINNING.  OF THE PROCESS, BUT BECAUSE THEY
GAVE US INPUT AND TALKED ABOUT.

THE NUANCES OF THE LEGISLATION  
WE PROPOSED, BY THE END, WE.  PASSED IT IN A BIPARTISAN WAY,  
OVERWHELMINGLY BIPARTISAN, AND.  IT WAS BECAUSE OF THAT LOBBYIST
INPUT THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET.  TO THAT POINT AND GET TO A GOOD
END PRODUCT.

>> I WOULD AGREE THE LOBBYISTS  
CAN BE IMPORTANT.  I KNOW WHEN I CAME IN TWO YEARS
AGO, WE HAD A VERY LARGE.  FRESHMAN CLASS, AND FOR A LOT OF
PEOPLE WHO COME IN THE.  LEGISLATURE, YOU THINK THAT    
LOBBYISTS ARE BAD, BUT YOU LEARN.

QUICKLY YOU CAN'T KNOW          
EVERYTHING ABOUT EVERY ISSUE,  AND YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THESE  
PEOPLE ARE EXPERTS A LOT OF.  TIMES IN THE FIELDS THAT THEY  
ARE TALKING TO YOU ABOUT, AND SO.  YOU DO NEED TO KIND OF RELY ON  
THEM TO GIVE YOU INFORMATION,  AND YOU DO HAVE TO BE CAREFUL,  
TOO, BECAUSE THERE ARE LOBBYISTS.  ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ISSUE, AND
THEY HAVE AN AGENDA AS WELL, AND.

THEY WANT TO CONVINCE YOU YOU  
SHOULD SIDE WITH THEM, BUT I.  THINK MOST LEGISLATORS          
UNDERSTAND THAT, AND LOBBYISTS.  REALLY DO TAKE SERIOUSLY THAT WE
ARE IN A RELATIONSHIP BUSINESS.  AND YOUR WORD IS PROBABLY THE  
MOST IMPORTANT THING YOU HAVE IN.

ST. PAUL.                      
I THINK LOBBYISTS TAKE THAT VERY.  SERIOUSLY, AND WE DON'T HAVE A  
LOT OF PROBLEMS WHERE LOBBYISTS.

ARE GIVING MISINFORMATION OR    
TRYING TO MISLEAD.  THEY ARE HONEST ABOUT WHAT THEY
ARE TRYING TO TALK ABOUT.  >> WE HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS    
FROM VIEWERS WHO WERE CONCERNED.  ABOUT THE PENSION BILL, THE    
DULUTH PENSION WAS REFERENCED IN.

ONE OF THESE QUESTIONS, AND    
ANOTHER VIEWER WAS CONCERNED.  WHETHER OR NOT THERE SHOULD BE  
ANY BOOST TO PUBLIC SECTOR.  PENSIONS, AND ANOTHER VIEWER WAS
SUGGESTING THAT, YOU KNOW,  PRIVATE SECTOR DOESN'T HAVE THE
BENEFIT OF PUBLIC SECTOR.  PENSIONS, AND IN GENERAL, I'M  
GOING TO LUMP THESE ALL.

TOGETHER, AND LET'S TALK ABOUT  
THE LEGISLATIVE ACTION THAT.  HAPPENED WITH RESPECT TO        
PENSIONS IN THIS SESSION, AND.  MAYBE ALSO TALK ABOUT HOW      
MINNESOTA MAY BE DIFFERENT THAN.  OTHER STATES IN TERMS OF HOW    
THEY APPROACH PENSION.

WHO WANTS TO TAKE A RUN AT THAT?
>> I WILL TAKE A SHOT.  GENERALLY, I THINK -- COMPARED  
TO OTHER STATES, I THINK IT'S.  FAIR TO SAY MINNESOTA DOESN'T  
HAVE A SEVERE PROBLEM AS OTHER.  STATES DO, AND HOWEVER, THAT    
BEING SAID, I THINK WE HAVE.

DIFFICULTIES, AND TO ME THE    
HEART OF THE DIFFICULTY LIES IN.  THE STRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE,    
WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY DEFINED BY.  WHICH WE MAKE A COMMITMENT AND  
BENEFITS OVER TIME, AND THOSE.  BENEFITS GET INCREASED OVER    
TIME, AND THE INVESTMENT, IF YOU.

WILL, DOESN'T TYPICALLY SUPPORT
THAT LEVEL OF BENEFIT, AND.  PERIODICALLY, WE WOULD COME BACK
TO THE LEGISLATURE AND ASK THE.  LEGISLATURE TO PUT MORE TAXPAYER
DOLLARS IN THE PENSIONS AND I.  HAVE SEEN THAT HAPPEN A NUMBER  
OF TIMES, AND IS THAT'S WHAT WE.

DID THIS YEAR IN WHICH WE DID  
OFFER RESOURCES TO.  I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE REFORM
BROUGHT TO THE PROCESS, AND WE.  NEED TO AT SOME POINT SAY PEOPLE
THAT ARE IN THE PENSIONS ARE.  GOING TO KEEP THE COMMITMENTS WE
MADE.

A CONTRIBUTION PLAN IS MORE    
COMMON IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR.  OTHERWISE I DON'T THINK WE CAN  
SUSTAIN THESE GOING FORWARD.  WE NEED TO GET A POLITICAL      
CONSENSUS HOW TO DO THAT.  IN THE YEARS I HAVE BEEN HERE WE
HAVEN'T COME TO GRIPS WITH THAT.

>> SENATOR MURPHY YOUR THOUGHT?
>> WE MADE A COMMITMENT TO THE.  STATE AND PUBLIC EMPLOYEES IN  
THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS THAT.  HAVE WORKED FOR MANY, MANY      
YEARS, AND COMPENSATION PACKAGE,  AND WE HAVE MADE THAT COMMITMENT
AND PENSION FUNDS BECAUSE OF UPS.  AND DOWNS IN THE ECONOMY, AND  
BECAUSE OF THE SHIFTING IN AGING.

POPULATION, AND THEY DO        
SOMETIMES NEED OUR ATTENTION.  OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE WE MADE THE  
COMMITMENT, WE WILL FULFILL THAT.  FOR PEOPLE THAT WORKED IN THE  
STATE OF MINNESOTA FOR A LONG.  TIME.

                         
I KNOW AS A REGISTERED NURSE, A.  LOT OF NURSES WORK IN MINNESOTA
HOSPITALS, AND THEY HAVE A.  PENSION THEY FUND ALONG WITH    
THEIR EMPLOYERS.  IT'S NOT UNUSUAL TO SEE IT IN  
THE PRIVATE SECTOR AS WELL AS.

THE PUBLIC SECTOR.              
WE CAN HAVE A DEBATE ABOUT IT.  BUT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US AS    
POLICY MAKERS TO CONSIDER THE.  ECONOMIC SECURITY FOR THEIR    
ABILITY TO RETIRE AND I THINK.

IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE PAY      
ATTENTION TO THE PENSIONS.  >> I DON'T HAVE A LOT TO ADD    
EXCEPT TO ECHO WHAT WE SAID THAT.  WE AS LEGISLATORS NEED TO KEEP  
AN EYE ON THE DEGREE TO WHICH.  THE PENSION PLANS ARE FULLY    
FUNDED AND THERE'S TALK ABOUT.

ROLLING THE UNDERFUNDED PLANS  
INTO PARA PERA, PUBLIC EMPLOYMET.  RETIREMENT FUND.                
I BELIEVE WE NEED TO HAVE.  DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOW WE FUND  
THESE OBLIGATIONS IN THE FUTURE.

AND LOOK FOR REFORMS THAT WILL  
MAKE THEM MORE SUSTAINABLE IN.  THE LONG-TERM.                  
>> YEAH, I THINK I PRETTY MUCH.  AGREE WITH WHAT EVERYBODY SAID.


I THINK WE NEED TO KEEP AN EYE.  ON THE PENSION PLANS AND MAKE  
SURE WE ARE BEING GOOD STEWARDS.  OF THE TAX DOLLARS, AND WE NEED
TO ALSO AT THE SAME TIME UPHOLD.  THE OBLIGATION WE MADE TO THESE
EMPLOYEES, BUT WE NEED TO DO.

THAT RESPONSIBLY.              
>> A VIEWER WANTS TO TALK ABOUT.  THE HERITAGE LAW, AND THE STATUS
OR AMENDMENT TO IT AND THERE WAS.  DISCUSSION ABOUT CHANGING FROM  
ONE YEAR TO TWO YEARS, IF I'M.

RECALLING CORRECTLY, AND THE    
WORK OF THE COMMISSION, I THINK.  PHYLLIS KAHN LED THE CHARGE ON  
THAT.  WHAT HAPPENED WITH THAT        
PARTICULAR PROPOSED CHANGE?  DOES ANYBODY KNOW?              
>> I THINK THE VIEWERS.  REFERENCING THE LEGACY BILL, AND
SPECIFICALLY TODAY, GOVERNOR.

DAYTON LINE ITEM VETOED FUNDING
PROVISIONS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN.  THE OUTDOOR HERITAGE COUNCIL    
PORTION OF THE LEGACY BILL.  SO THEY MADE THEIR              
RECOMMENDATIONS AND THOSE.  RECOMMENDATIONS WERE INCLUDED IN
THE SENATE BILL, AND NOT ALL OF.

THEM WERE INCLUDED IN THE HOUSE
BILL, AND THE COMPROMISE THAT.  WAS REACHED WITH GOVERNOR DAYTON
AND LEGISLATIVE LEADERS WAS TO.  ADOPT THE LESARD SAMES          
RECOMMENDATIONS AND INCLUDE TWO.  PROJECTS THAT WERE NOT INCLUDED.
THOSE WERE THE TWO THE GOVERNOR.

LINE ITEM VETOED TODAY.        
ONE WAS RELATED TO HABITAT FOR.  METROPOLITAN PARKS, AND        
STATEWIDE FOR CHECKING BOATS AND.  THINGS LIKE THAT, AND I READ THE
GOVERNOR'S VETO LETTER AND IT.

SOUNDED LIKE HE WAS CONFLICTED  
WHETHER OR NOT TO REMOVE THIS.  FUNDING, BUT ULTIMATELY DECIDING
TO BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT.  INCLUDED IN THE LESARD SAMS    
RECOMMENDS.  >> ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT?        
WAS LEGISLATIVE ACTION REQUIRED.

TO CHANGE THE WAY THE LESARD    
SAMS COMMISSION WORK WAS TO BE.  DONE?                          
THAT DID NOT PASS, I GATHER?  >> IT DID NOT PASS.            
>> IT REMAINS THE SAME AS IT HAS.  BEEN IN THE PAST.

             
>> YES.  >> LET'S TALK ABOUT SYNTAXES.  
WE HAVE VIEWERS CONCERNED ABOUT.  CIGARETTE TAXES, AND ALCOHOL    
TACKS AND SOME THEY ARE TAXES ON.

THE POOR, AND OTHERS FEEL TAXING
CIGARETTES MAY REDUCE THE RATE.  OF CONSUMPTION, AND OTHERS DON'T
LIKE IT AT ALL.  WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE SYNTAXES
IN THIS SESSION?  >> SURE.                        
I CAN JUMP IN ON THAT ONE.

OBVIOUSLY THERE WAS A LOT OF    
TAXES ON THE TABLE, AND INCLUDED.  IN THAT WAS THE ALCOHOL TAX AND
SEG RIT TAX, AND THE ALCOHOL TAX.  IN NOT MAKING IT THROUGH THE    
SESSION, WHICH I THINK IT'S.  INTERESTING, IN THAT I RECALL  
BACK TO THE GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN.

A COUPLE YEARS AGO, AND IT WAS  
ACTUALLY THE THREAT OF BEER.  COMING OFF THE STORE SHELVES    
THAT I CREDIT WITH ENDED THE.  SHUTDOWN.                      
PEOPLE TAKE IT VERY SERIOUSLY,  AND IF YOU START TAXING THEIR  
SIX-PACK, THEY GET UPSET AND.

WILL COME TO THE CAPITOL WITH  
TORCHES AND PITCHFORKS.  BUT NONETHELESS THE CIGARETTE  
TAX DID MAKE IT THROUGH.  OBVIOUSLY, AND UNFORTUNATELY MY
PERSONAL FEELING IS I THINK IT.  WAS UNNECESSARY, BUT A DOLLAR 60
A PACK, PRETTY HIGH SPIKE IN THE.

CIGARETTE TAX.                  
A SIDE BENEFIT OF THAT IS IT.  WILL REDUCE THE USAGE, WHICH I  
THINK IS INTERESTING, BECAUSE.  WHEN WE SAY WITH CIGARETTE TAXES
THAT WILL ACTUALLY AFFECT.

BEHAVIOR, AND WE ACCEPT THE    
NOTION THAT A CIGARETTE TAX WILL.  AFFECT BEHAVIOR BUT WE DON'T    
ACCEPT THE NOTION THAT TAXING A.  BUSINESS OR INDIVIDUAL WILL    
AFFECT THEIR BEHAVIOR, AND WE.  ALL KNOW THE REAL ANSWER IS WHEN
WE TAX BUSINESSES AND JOB.

CREATORS IN MINNESOTA AND MAKE  
THAT LESS COMPETITIVE FOR JOB.  CREATORS, WE ARE NOT GOING TO  
SEE COMPANIES COMING TO.  MINNESOTA AND BRINGING JOBS TO  
MINNESOTA, AND SO ALL OF THIS, I.  THINK, IS SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT
NECESSARY THIS SESSION, BUT WE.

DID SEE A PRETTY BIG SPIKE IN  
THE CIGARETTE TAX.  >> AND I MENTIONED THAT I'M A  
REGISTERED NURSE, AND CERTAINLY.  HAVE TAKEN A LOT OF PEOPLE WITH
CHRONIC CONDITIONS AND TAKEN.  CARE OF PEOPLE WITH LUNG        
CONDITIONS, AND ALL SORTS OF.

CHRONIC CONDITIONS RELATED TO  
BEHAVIOR IN LARGE PART, AND WHEN.  I THINK ABOUT THE RELATE CARE  
SYSTEM OF TODAY VERSUS THE.  HEALTHCARE SYSTEM OF 50 YEARS  
AGO, IT'S TAKING CARE OF PEOPLE.  WITH CHRONIC CONDITIONS, AND    
THAT'S WHERE OUR COSTS ARE, AND.

WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE THAT, AND  
TOBACCO TAX IS A WAY TO RAISE.  REVENUE TO PAY FOR SOME OF THOSE
COSTS AND THEY ARE RELATED TO.  ONE ANOTHER.                    
THE VIEWER HAD SUGGESTED THAT.

THE TOBACCO TAX IS A REGRESSIVE
TAX, AND I WOULD SAY SO IS THE.  DISEASE RELATED TO THE USE OF  
TOBACCO, AND IT IS ALSO.  REGRESSIVE AND AFFECTS LOWER    
INCOME PEOPLE.  THEY ARE GOING TO RELY ON A    
HEALTHCARE SYSTEM AND PUBLIC.

PROGRAM.                        
THIS IS A WAY TO FUND THAT.  RELATED TO THE USE OF TOBACCO,  
IT'S A USER FEE FOR PEOPLE WHO.  CHOOSE TO SMOKE, AND IT DOES    
RAISE REVENUE FOR OUR GENERAL.

FUND.                          
THAT'S WHAT WE USED TO PAY FOR.  OUR PUBLIC HEALTH SYSTEM.      
>> I WOULD SAY THAT'S A GOOD.

ARGUMENT, AND I THINK THERE'S  
MER IT TO IT, BUT THE SAME.  ARGUMENT CAN BE MADE TO RAISE  
TAXES.  >> ANHE SAID THAT IN SUPERIOR,  
WISCONSIN, WHICH IS RIGHT ACROSS.  FROM DULUTH, THEY PUT ON THE    
RECEIPTS HOW MUCH MONEY YOU SAVE.

WHEN YOU BUY YOUR BEER IN      
SUPERIOR VERSUS DULUTH, AND THEY.  ACTUALLY PRINT THAT ON THE      
BOTTOM OF THE RECEIPT, AND HIS.  POINT TO ME THAT WE SHOULDN'T DO
THAT, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE.  DETRIMENTAL TO THE BUSINESSES IN
THE BORDER CITIES, AND I THINK.

HE HAS A GOOD POINT.            
I THINK THE SAME THING IS TRUE.  WITH THE TOBACCO TAXES AND YOU  
WILL SEE THE BORDER COMMUNITIES.  THAT THE TOBACCO SALES WILL DROP
AS PEOPLE GO ACROSS THE BORDER.

AND LAW ENFORCEMENT WAS NOT IN  
FAVOR OF THE TAX BECAUSE THEY.  ARE CONCERNED ABOUT PEOPLE GOING
AND GETTING CARTON OF.  CIGARETTES, AND SELLING THEM ON
THE BLACK MARKET.  IF WE ARE GOING TO USE TAX      
CONTROL, YOU CAN CONTROL.

BEHAVIOR, WHICH I'M NOT SURE IS
A GOOD IDEA.  WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH INCOME  
TAXES, BUSINESS TAXES?  DO THEY NOT ALSO AFFECT        
BEHAVIOR.  IF WE ARE DOING THEM TO RAISE  
REVENUE AND AT THE SAME TIME.  WANT PEOPLE TO STOP USING THEM,
WHAT ARE WE DOING?  TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO STOP OR
DO MORE OF IT SO WE CAN GET THE.

REVENUE?                        
WE DON'T REALLY NEED TO RAISE.  THE REVENUE THAT THIS BUDGET    
PROPOSES.  >> THE INCREASE IN THE TOBACCO  
TAX, I THINK, WILL BE MOST STARK.  OR WHO'LL SEE IT THE MOST ARE  
TEENAGERS WHO ARE BEGINNING TO.

SMOKE AT RATES THAT I THINK MOST
PEOPLE WOULD FIND ALARMING, AND.  I THINK THIS INCREASE, ALTHOUGH
IT DOES RAISE SOME REVENUE, AND.  CERTAINLY THAT IS HELPFUL, AS  
REPRESENTATIVE MURPHY SAID FOR.  TREATING THE LONG-TERM HEALTH  
CONSEQUENCES THAT SMOKING DOES.

HAVE, I THINK SO WE WILL SEE    
DECREASE IN SMOKING RATES AMONG.  YOUNG PEOPLE, AND THAT WILL BE  
SOMETHING THAT WILL BENEFIT ALL.  OF MINNESOTA.                  
>> VIEWER FROM BROOKLYN PARK.

WANTS TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED WITH
NOT PASSING THE MINIMUM WAGE.  INCREASE?                      
DOESN'T THE LEGISLATURE REALIZE.  THE RAMIFICATIONS OF THAT      
DECISION, AND I THINK MY.  INTERPRETATION OF THIS IS THE  
VIEWER FAVORED THE INCREASE IN.

THE PASSING THE MINIMUM WAGE.  
WHO WANTS TO TAKE A RUN AT MIN.  YUM WAGE ISSUES.                
SENATOR SIEBEN, SHOULD WE START.

WITH YOU?                      
>> A NUMBER OF YOUNG PEOPLE ARE.  ALSO IMPACTED, BUT TO HAVE A    
MINIMUM WAGE THAT IS NOT EVEN.  CLOSE TO WHAT IT TAKES TO RAISE
A FAMILY OR TO LIVE OFF OF, I.  THINK IS PROBLEMATIC.

         
IN THE SENATE WE PROPOSE TO.  RAISE IT TO 7.75, AND THE HOUSE
WAS AT 9.50.  ULTIMATELY I THINK IT DIDN'T    
PASS BECAUSE WE COULDN'T AGREE.  TO A NUMBER THAT WAS SOMEWHERE  
IN BETWEEN 7.75 AND 9.50.

AS WE WORK TO THE FUTURE, I    
THINK IT'S -- WE HAVE A.  COMMITMENT AS LEADERS OF THE DFL
TO WORK HARD TO TRY TO COME TO A.  DOLLAR AMOUNT WHERE WE CAN      
GARNER THE SUPPORT WITHIN BOTH.  BODIES TO INCREASE THE MINIMUM  
WAGE.

IT CERTAINLY IS SOMETHING WE ARE
FAR BEHIND IN TERMS OF OTHER.  STATES, AND I THINK THE TIME TO
DO IT IS NOW, AND UNFORTUNATELY.  IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT  
JUST DIDN'T GET DONE THIS.  SESSION.

                     
>> I WOULD ADD THAT I THINK IT.  IS THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS OF  
THE SESSION, AND THE ISSUE IS IN.  A CONFERENCE COMMITTEE BETWEEN  
THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE RIGHT.  NOW, AND BETWEEN THE TWO BODIES,
WE CAN FIND A COMPROMISE THAT IS.

WORKABLE AND THE MINNESOTA      
MINIMUM WAGE IS BELOW THE.  FEDERAL MINIMUM WAGE.          
I THINK WE ARE THE FOURTH LOWEST.  IN THE NATION.

               
WE SHOULD TEND TO THAT, AND I.  THINK WE WILL EARLY IN THE      
SESSION.  >> WE CERTAINLY HAD PEOPLE ON  
BOTH THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE.  THAT WANTED AN INCREASE IN THE  
MINIMUM WAGE.

I THINK IT WAS BECAUSE THERE WAS
AN EXTRAORDINARILY AMOUNT OF.  EFFORT THAT TOOK PRECEDENCE OVER
THAT, AND I THINK COULDN'T DO.  BOTH AND THERE WASN'T ENOUGH    
TIME TO GET THEM DONE.  I THINK THE ISSUE ITSELF, I    
THINK IT'S PRETTY CLEAR WHEN YOU.

RAISE MINIMUM WAGES, THE PEOPLE
THAT ARE MOST DRAMATICALLY HURT.  ARE PEOPLE YOUNG, STARTING OUT,
MAY NOT HAVE ALL THE.  QUALIFICATIONS AND LOOKING FOR A
WAY TO GET INTO THE JOB MARKET,  AND IMPROVE THEIR ABILITY,      
ESTABLISH A WORD.  WHEN YOU RAISE MINIMUM WAGES    
WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE THE.

CHANCE, WHEN YOU LOOK ACROSS THE
COUNTRY WHERE THIS HAS HAPPENED.  AND LOOK AT EMPLOYMENT RATES    
WHERE PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE THE.  HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA OR HIGHER  
EDUCATION SKILL SET, THAT'S.  WHERE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE THE    
OPPORTUNITY TO GET IN THE JOB.

MARKET.                        
WE SHOULDN'T RAISE IT TO WHERE.  THEY ARE OUTSIDE THE MARKET.    
>> YOU KNOW, I WOULD AGREE WITH.

SENATOR HANN, AND I ALSO THINK  
THERE'S AN ISSUE, TOO, WITH THE.  METRO AND RURAL, AND SOME OF THE
BUSINESSES IN THE METRO AREA.  PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM
ABSORBING THAT MINIMUM WAGE.  INCREASE WHERE RURAL BUSINESSES
MIGHT BE MORE ADVERSELY AFFECTED.

JUST BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF  
THE TWO DIFFERENT ECONOMIES, AND.  THERE'S ALSO BEEN STATISTICS    
THAT SHOW THAT INCREASING.  MINIMUM WAGE WILL ACTUALLY MEAN
LESS JOBS, AND SO THERE'S A.  LITTLE BIT OF A DOUBLE EDGED    
SWORD, AND WHILE WE ARE WANTING.

TO PROVIDE A WAGE THAT PEOPLE  
CAN LIVE ON, WE DON'T WANT TO.  INCREASE JOB OPPORTUNITIES.    
>> CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO PAY.  PEOPLE IN GREATER MINNESOTA, AND
WE WOULD HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE.

SURE WE ARE BEING FAIR AND      
EQUITABLE ACROSS THE STATE.  >> VIEWER FROM SWIFT COUNTY HAS
THREE QUESTIONS, AND UNRELATED.  AND WE ARE GOING TO REFER THEM  
OUT THERE, AND OUR PANEL CAN.  TAKE THEM IN WHATEVER ORDER OR  
NOT, AND THEY WANT TO.

CONGRATULATE THE LEGISLATURE ON
INCREASING STATE PUBLIC SCHOOL.  AID AND MAKING LOCAL GOVERNMENT
AID FAIR, AND THE VIEWER THINKS.  THE FARM EQUIPMENT REPAIR NEEDS
TO BE EXEMPT FROM PAYING TAX,  AND I THINK THERE'S BEEN        
DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT, AND.  FINALLY SOMEWHAT CONTROVERSIAL  
ISSUE EARLY IN THE SESSION, AND.

THIS VIEWER THINKS THE          
LEGISLATURE SHOULD REVISIT THE.  ISSUE OF BANNING SO-CALLED      
ASSAULT WEAPONS AND LARGE.  CAPACITY AMMUNITION MAGAZINES.  
I SAID THEY WERE UNRELATED.

THEY ARE.                      
LET'S TAKE A RUN AT THEM.  SENATOR HANN, YOUR THOUGHTS?    
>> I TRIED TO JOT THEM DOWN.  I HOPE THEY GOT THEM IN ORDER OR
AT LEAST THE GIST OF THEM.

I THINK THE EDUCATION BILL THAT
WAS PASSED CERTAINLY AN INCREASE.  IN THE AID FORMULA, AND I THINK
MOST LEGISLATORS SUPPORTED THAT,  AND I THINK THAT SOME OF US FELT
THAT WE COULD PROBABLY GET A.  LITTLE BIT MORE AND SOME OF THE
THINGS ON THE EDUCATION BILL,  AND AT LEAST SOME OF US THINK  
ARE MORE DIRECTIVE, AND I'M ONE.  OF THEM.

                     
WE HAVE LOCAL SCHOOL BOARDS, AND.  WE HAVE GOT TO BE EMPOWERING    
THEM TO MAKE DECISIONS AND THE.  MORE WE DO THAT, GIVING THEM THE
POWER AND THE AUTHORITY TO DO  THAT, INSTEAD OF MAKING        
DECISIONS FOR THEM, THAT COULD.  BE BETTER, AND WE COULD PUT MORE
RESOURCES IN THEIR HANDS AND.

GIVE THEM MORE DIRECTION HOW    
THEY SHOULD SPEND THE RESOURCES.  I THINK OVERALL, THERE'S SUPPORT
FOR DOING THAT, AND MAYBE WE.  COULD HAVE DONE A LITTLE BIT    
MORE ON THAT.  LGM, I REPRESENT THEM, AND I    
KNOW THE ARGUMENT IS THIS.

REDUCES PROPERTY TAXES, AND I  
DON'T THINK THAT'S EVER BEEN.  SHOWN TO BE THE CASE.          
I HAVE URGED PEOPLE TO SAY WELL,  THE NEXT TIME YOU GO TO THE    
TRUTH IN TAXATION HEARINGS, AND.  THE LOCAL COUNCIL IS GOING TO  
RAISE THE TAXES, REMIND THEM THE.

LJ IS SUPPOSED TO RAISE PROPERTY
TAXES AND HOLD THEIR LOCAL.  OFFICIALS ACCOUNTABLE AND THEY  
SHOULD SEE IT GO DOWN.  THERE'S NOT BEEN ANY            
RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN INCREASING.  LGA AND PROPERTY TAXES AT THE  
LOCAL LEVEL.

THE FARM EQUIPMENT REPAIR, I'M  
NOT SURE THERE'S ISSUES THAT HAD.  AN EFFECT ON AGO RESULT YO AGRII
HEARD ABOUT THAT TODAY, AND.  FARMERS IN PARTICULAR WERE      
CONCERNED ABOUT THE IMPACT OF.  THOSE TAXES AND THEY PROBABLY DO
NEED TO BE ADJUSTED, AND I THINK.

THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE      
CONCERNED TO THE AGRICULTURE.  FOLKS.                          
ASSAULT WEAPONS, PERSONALLY.  HAPPY THAT WE DIDN'T GO DOWN    
THAT PATH AND I THINK IT'S A.

CONTROVERSIAL AREA, AND I THINK
THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE, AND I.  THINK WE DID END UP WITH A      
POSITION THAT WAS FAIRLY.  RESPONSIBLE IN TRYING TO LOOK AT
HOW WE CAN ENFORCE EXISTING LAWS.  MORE EFFECTIVELY.

             
>> SENATOR SIEBEN.  >> FOR EDUCATION THERE WAS      
SIGNIFICANT EDUCATION INCREASES.  THAT WERE A RESULT OF THIS      
LEGISLATIVE SESSION, AND WE.  TALKED ALREADY ABOUT ALL-DAY    
KINDERGARTEN.

THAT CERTAINLY COST SOME        
RESOURCES BUT ALSO THERE'S A ONE.  AND A HALF PERCENT PER YEAR    
INCREASE TO SCHOOL DISTRICTS.  ACROSS THE STATE.              
THERE'S NEW FUNDING FOR SPECIAL.

EDUCATION, AND ADDITIONAL      
FUNDING FOR EARLYi CHILDHOOD AD.  ALSO FOR MNSCU AND SO OVER ALL  
ONE LEGISLATURE CALLED THIS THE.  EDUCATION SESSION, AND I THINK  
THAT THE RESOURCES THAT WERE --  WHILE WE ARE ASKING THE TOP 2%  
OF WEALTHIEST MINNESOTANS TO PAY.  MORE IN INCOME TAXES, WE WILL  
SEE THE BENEFIT OF THOSE.

INVESTMENTS FOR DECADES TO COME
AS YOUNG MINNESOTANS ARE.  EDUCATED BETTER AND GET BETTER  
JOBS AS A RESULT OF REGARDING.  LOCAL GOVERNMENT AID, THERE WAS
AN INCREASE IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT.  AID AND TWEAKING OF THE ACTUAL  
FORMULA, AND THERE'S ALSO AN.

INCREASE IN COUNTY PROGRAM AID,
AND THE RENTERS CREDIT, AND AS I.  MENTIONED EARLIER, THE SALES TAX
EXEMPTION FOR CITY AND COUNTY.  PURCHASES.                      
PROPERTY TAXES WENT UP OVER 85%  IN THE LAST DECADE.

           
BECAUSE OF THIS INVESTMENT THAT.  WE WILL SEE, PARTICULARLY IN    
PROPERTY TAXES, PEOPLE WILL BE.  ABLE TO ANTICIPATE THAT THEIR  
PROPERTY TAXES WON'T GO UP,  CERTAINLY NOT ANYWHERE NEAR THAT
RATE THAT HASN'T OCCURRED.  PREVIOUSLY.

                   
REGARDING THE FARM EQUIPMENT.  REPAIR, I THINK IT WAS ONE OF  
THOSE THINGS IN THE LAST CRAZY.  HOURS OF SESSION, IT JUST DIDN'T
HAPPEN QUITE THE WAY EVERYONE.  THOUGHT THAT IT DID IN THE      
ACTUAL LANGUAGE OF THE BILL.

WE WILL WORK ON THAT AND I      
ANTICIPATE WE WILL CORRECT THAT.  >> ANY THOUGHTS ON THE GUN      
CONTROL PIECE?  >> I WOULD SAY GUN CONTROL IS  
ONE OF THOSE ISSUES, DEPENDING.  ON YOUR PERSPECTIVE, DEPENDING  
ON YOUR LIFE EXPERIENCE.  PEOPLE HAVE VERY STRONG FEELINGS
ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, AND I THINK.

HERE IS A GOOD EXAMPLE WHERE IT
WASN'T NECESSARILY A PARTISAN.  ISSUE.                          
IT WAS MORE RURAL AND METRO.  DIVISION IN TERMS OF LEGISLATORS
THAT WANTED TO SEE MORE ACTION.

TAKEN, PARTICULARLY FROM THE MET
METROPOLITAN AREA, NOT IN ALL.  CASES, AND I'M HOPEFUL THAT    
TALKS WILL CONTINUE AND CONTINUE.  TO LOOK AT THE LEGISLATION THAT
WE DID PASS THAT GORNERRED.  BIPARTISAN SUPPORT AND BUILD ON
IT.

>> A LOT OF ISSUES THERE.      
I OBVIOUSLY HAVE BACKGROUND IN.  COUNTY GOVERNMENT, SO I FOLLOWED
THOSE ISSUES MAYBE A LITTLE MORE.  CLOSELY AND HOW SOME OF THE    
DECISIONS WE MAKE AFFECT.

PEOPLE'S PROPERTY TAXES.        
I'M NOT SURE THAT I WOULD CALL.  ANYTHING THAT WAS DONE THIS    
SESSION AS REAL PROPERTY TAX.  REFORM.

                       
I KNOW I HAVE SAID NUMEROUS.  TIMES ON THE HOUSE FLOOR THAT I
SCRATCH MY HEAD ONCE IN A WHILE.  HOW WE CAN AFFECT BUSINESSES IN
ST. PAUL.

I HAVE A PROBLEM SOLVING MY END,
AND I THINK IF YOU ARE GOING TO.  ACTUALLY TRY TO TACKLE PROPERTY
TAX REFORM THAT WE SHOULD.  ACTUALLY IDENTIFY THE PROBLEM,  
AND FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS THAT'S.  CAUSING PROPERTY TAXES TO      
INCREASE, IF THEY ARE, AND THEN.

ACTUALLY PUT A SOLUTION IN PLACE
THAT MAKES SENSE.  UNFORTUNATELY, WE DON'T DO THAT.
WHAT WE DO IS INTRODUCE.  SOLUTIONS AND TRY TO CONVINCE  
EVERYBODY THAT THIS IS A GOOD.  SOLUTION FOR OUR PROBLEM, AND  
THAT ALMOST ALWAYS ISN'T THE.

CASE.                          
THE THINGS THAT WERE PUT IN.  PLACE UNFORTUNATELY ARE NOT REAL
PROPERTY TAX REFORM.  ACTUALLY YOU COULD CALL MOST OF
THEM A SHIFT, BECAUSE YOU HAVE.

TO RAISE ONE GROUP OF TAXES OVER
HERE TO SEND A REBATE BACK TO.  ANOTHER GROUP OF TAXPAYERS OVER
THERE.  UNFORTUNATELY THERE'S ZERO REAL
PROPERTY TAX REFORM IN THE.  BUDGET THAT WAS PASSED, AND AS  
FAR AS THE EDUCATION PIECE THE.

MOST UNFORC UNFORTUNATE PART OFE
SESSION THE NO. ONE PRIORITY WAS.  TO PAY BACK THE SCHOOL SHIFT.  
THEY MADE IT HOUSE BILL NO.

1,  AND IN THE DAYS OF SESSION, THEY
BROKE THAT PROMISE TO TAXPAYERS.  AND UNFORTUNATELY WILL NOT BE  
PAYING BACK THE SCHOOL SHIFT OR.  NOT PUT A PLAN IN PLACE TO PAY  
THE SCHOOL SHIFT.  REPUBLICANS DID MAKE IT A      
PRIORITY.

WHEN WE TALK THE MAJORITY TWO  
YEARS AGO, THE SHIFT WAS.  $1.27 MILLION AND IT'S          
800 MILLION.  I THINK BY THE TIME THIS        
PARTICULAR BIENNIUM IS OVER,  REPUBLICANS WILL HAVE PAID THE  
SHIFT DOWN TO PROBABLY ABOUT.  $400 MILLION, SOMETHING LIKE    
THAT.

BUT DEMOCRATS DID SAY IT WAS    
THEIR NO. 1 PRIORITY, AND.  UNFORTUNATELY THEY DIDN'T KEEP  
THAT PROMISE TO TAXPAYERS.  >> WE HAVE A VERY DIFFERENT    
PERSPECTIVE ON THE LAST COUPLE.

OF YEARS OF BUDGETING, AND YOU  
KNOW, WE CAME INTO THE SESSION.  WITH $650 MILLION BUDGET DEFICIT
THAT WE HAD TO REPAIR.  >> DOWN FROM 4.4 BILLION TWO    
YEARS AGO AS A RESULT OF WHAT.  THE REPUBLICANS DID.

         
>> AND BECAUSE THE ECONOMY HAS.  GOTTEN STRONGER, WHICH IS GOOD  
NEWS.  IN THE BUDGET THAT WAS PASSED,  
THE SCHOOL SHIFT GOT BIGGER AND.  A NEW TOOL, TOBACCO            
APPROPRIATION BONDS, AND VOWING.

TO BALANCE THE BUDGET IN TODAY'S
OPERATIONS AND THEY ARE NOT.  PHYSICALLY PRUDENT, AND        
MINNESOTANS WERE CLEAR ABOUT.  THAT WHEN WE WERE OUT          
CAMPAIGNING, THEY WERE TIRED AS.  WHAT THEY SAW AS SHIFTS AND    
GIMMICKS AND WANTED US TO.

BALANCE THE BUDGET FOR REAL, AND
WE TOOK THAT SERIOUSLY, AND WE.  DID KEEP OUR COMMITMENT ON THE  
SHIFT AND THERE IS A PLAN IN.  PLACE, AND IT WILL BE PAID BACK,
AND AS WE COMMITTED TO THE.  PEOPLE OF MINNESOTA, THAT WILL  
HAPPEN.

AND ON THE ISSUE OF GUNS, THIS  
ONE IS IMPORTANT, AND I HAVE.  TALKED TO A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE
DISTRICT THAT I REPRESENT, BUT.  ALSO PEOPLE, AND WOMEN IN      
PARTICULAR IN SUBURBAN DISTRICTS.  THAT ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE    
ISSUE, AND WE CAME INTO THE.

LEGISLATURE SHORTLY AFTER THE  
NEWTOWN SHOOTING WHERE ALL THE.  STUDENTS AND TEACHERS WERE      
KILLED, AND I THINK WE HAVE WORK.  TO DO ON THIS ISSUE AND        
UNFORTUNATELY VERY EARLY IN THE.  SESSION, THE VOICES ON EITHER  
SIDE OF THE ISSUE WERE POLARIZED.

AND POLARIZED IN AN ENTRENCHED  
WAY.  AND BECAUSE OF THAT AND BECAUSE
OF THE POLIC POLARIZATION WE DIT.  GET TO THE HEART OF THE MATTER  
TO TALK ABOUT THE RESOLUTIONS.  THAT WOULD HELP US MAKE SURE OUR
KIDS ARE SAFE AND COMMUNITIES.

ARE SAFE THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY
ABOUT ASSAULT WEAPON BANS OR HOW.  GUNS ARE STORED BUT HOW ARE WE  
MAKING SURE OUR KIDS ARE SAFE IN.  SCHOOL, AND HOW ARE WE MAKING  
SURE PEOPLE WHO HAVE ACCESS TO.  GUNS AREN'T GETTING ACCESS TO  
GUNS, AND BECAUSE IT GOT SO.

DIVIDED SO QUICKLY, THE ISSUE  
GOT STUCK, AND  I HOPE THE.  LEGISLATURE COMING UP IN THE    
NEXT BIENNIUM HAVE A LITTLE MORE.  COURAGE TO DIVE INTO THE MIDDLE
OF THAT ISSUE TO SET THE POLLS.  ASIDE AND SEE IF WE CAN COME UP
WITH A SOLUTION THAT ISN'T.

NECESSARILY ABOUT THE GUN, BUT  
IT'S ABOUT WHAT IS DRIVING THAT.  KIND OF VIOLENCE IN OUR        
COMMUNITIES SO THAT EVERYBODY IS.  SAFE.                          
I THINK THAT'S A WORTHWHILE.

DISCUSSION.                    
>> A VIEWER FROM NORTHEAST.  MINNESOTA WANTS TO GO BACK TO  
ALCOHOL.  WHAT DO THE LEGISLATURE DO ABOUT
SUNDAY LIQUOR SALES, AND WHAT.

DOES THE PANEL THINK ABOUT THAT?
>> THAT'S AN INTERESTING ISSUE,  AND FOR SOME REASON IT ALWAYS  
COMES UP, AT LEAST IN -- THIS IS.  MY SECOND TERM NOW, I GUESS,    
WHERE WE HAVE DEALT WITH THIS,  BUT IN THE TWO SESSIONS WE HAVE
DEALT WITH THIS, IT'S AN.  INTERESTING DAY OF SESSION ON  
THE FLOOR, AND FOR SOME REASON I.  THINK IT HAPPENED IN BOTH      
SESSIONS, THE DAY WHEN THE.

TRANSPORTATION POLICY BILL IS UP
AND THEN WE ALSO SOMEHOW END UP.  DEALING WITH THE SUNDAY LIQUOR  
SALES, AND WE END UP WITH ALL OF.  THESE CRAZY AMENDMENTS THAT KIND
OF EVERYBODY SHOOTING FROM THE.  HIP AND NOBODY REALLY KNOWS    
WHERE IT'S GOING, BUT IT'S AN.

ISSUE THAT HAS NOT BEEN POPULAR
AND GARNERED A LOT OF VOTES IN.  THE LEGISLATURE, AT LEAST IN THE
TWO YEARS THAT I HAVE BEEN THERE.  TO CHANGE IT, AND AGAIN, IT CAME
UP AS AN AMENDMENT, AND WE DID.  NOT MAKE A CHANGE, AND THERE    
WILL NOT BE SUNDAY LIQUOR SALES.

AGAIN, AND I THINK THE REASON IS
PROBABLY THE LIQUOR STORE OWNERS.  DON'T REALLY WANT TO CHANGE, I  
THINK THEY SEE IT AS INCREASED.  OVERHEAD, AND BY ADDING ANOTHER
DAY OF WAGES WITHOUT REALLY.  INCREASING SALES, BECAUSE ALL  
THEY ARE GOING TO DO IS SPREAD.

SIX DAYS OF SALES OVER A SEVENTH
DAY.  THE STORE OWNERS THEMSELVES    
DON'T WANT THAT, AND PERSONALLY.  I DON'T THINK I WOULD HAVE EVER
VOTED TO PUT IT INTO PLACE, BUT.  SHORT OF SOMEBODY STEPPING UP  
AND KIND OF ASKING FOR IT TO BE.

CHANGED I ALSO HAVEN'T SUPPORTED
CHANGING IT EITHER.  >> ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON THAT  
TOPIC?  ALL RIGHT.                      
LET'S MOVE ON.  A VIEWER WANTS TO TALK ABOUT    
TRANSPORTATION POLICY.

WHAT HAPPENED WITH              
TRANSPORTATION THIS SESSION.  THIS VIEWER IS ALSO CONCERNED  
ABOUT CLOSING SMALL AIRPORTS AND.  THINKS MONEY CAN BE SAVED THAT  
WAY, AND I THINK THAT'S MORE OF.  A FEDERAL QUESTION, AS I        
UNDERSTAND IT, BUT LET'S TALK.

ABOUT THE TRANSPORTATION ISSUE.
WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS SESSION?  REPRESENTATIVE MURPHY, LET'S    
START WITH YOU.  >> THERE ARE MANY ISSUES, AND WE
TOLD MINNESOTANS, AND I.  CERTAINLY TALKED WITH PEOPLE IN
THE CAUCUS AT THE START OF THE.

SESSION THERE ARE MANY NEEDS IN
THE STATE OF MINNESOTA AND WE.  ARE NOT GOING TO ANSWER EVERYONE
IN ONE SESSION, ONE BUDGET.  TRANSPORTATION IS ONE OF THOSE.
THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF MINNESOTA,  ROADS, HIGHER EDUCATION, ET    
CETERA, THOSE INFRASTRUCTURE.

NEEDS, AND WE DIDN'T ADDRESS    
THAT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE.  TRANSPORTATION BILL OR BONDING  
BILL, TWO THINGS I THINK WE NEED.  TO CONTINUE TO PAY ATTENTION TO.
TRANSPORTATION POLICY IS.  CHALLENGING, AND IT'S ONE OF    
THOSE FUNDING PACKAGES THAT.

REALLY NEEDS TO BE BALANCED.    
GREATER MINNESOTA TRANSIT BOTH.  IN GREATER MINNESOTA AND URBAN  
MINNESOTA, AND PAYING ATTENTION.  TO ROADS AND BRIDGES BRIDGES.

 
>> REPRESENTATIVE DAUDT?  >> I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE A  
LOT NECESSARILY TO ADD.  YOU KNOW, PERSONALLY I'M AN    
ADVOCATE BEING THE ONLY RURAL.  LEGISLATOR HERE, I'M AN AD ADVOE
FOR THE ROADS AND BRIDGES.  FUNDING MORE THAN ANYTHING.

   
IN RECENT YEARS THERE'S BEEN A.  STRONG MOVE TOWARDS PUTTING MORE
OF AN EMPHASIS ON THE TRANSIT.  AND I KNOW IT DOES BENEFIT THE  
METRO AREA, BUT FRANKLY,  HOPEFULLY NOT AT THE COST OF THE
ROADS AND BRIDGES IN THE RURAL.  AREA, BECAUSE I THINK WE DO NEED
TO MAKE THAT A PRIORITY WE ARE.

PROPERLY FUNDING THE ROADS AND  
BRIDGES, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE.  MOST BASIC CORE FUNCTIONS OF    
STATE GOVERNMENT.  WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE    
TAKING CARE OF THAT ALL OVER THE.  STATE, NOT JUST IN THE METRO    
AREA.

>> I WOULD AGREE WITH          
REPRESENTATIVE DAUDT TO THE.  EXTENT ROADS AND BRIDGES ARE    
CRITICALLY IMPORTANT THROUGHOUT.  MINNESOTA, NOT JUST RURAL      
MINNESOTA.  A GOOD EXAMPLES WHERE WE NEED TO
GET TO IS THE HASTINGS BRIDGE IS.

CLOSE TO BEING CONSTRUCTED RIGHT
NOW AND THE NEW BRIDGE IS.  GETTING CLOSE TO BEING OPENED.  
THAT WAS SCHEDULED TO BE IN.  2025, AND IT WAS WHEN MY        
YOUNGEST WAS ENTERING.

KINDERGARTEN AND GOING TO      
GRADUATE HIGH SCHOOL.  15 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, AND IT  
WAS ONLY BECAUSE THE LEGISLATURE.  BACK IN 2007, I BELIEVE IT WAS,
OVER RODE GOVERNOR PAWLENTY'S.  VETO AND INCREASED THE GAS TAX,
AND THAT MONEY WENT DIRECTLY TO.

HELP BUILD NEW BRIDGES ACROSS  
MINNESOTA, AND IT CERTAINLY.  OCCURRED AS A RESULT OF THE    
TRAGIC BRIDGE COLLAPSE, AND THEY.  THINK SOME OF THE DISCUSSION    
TOOK PLACE MORE QUICKLY, BUT.  THERE ARE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS  
ALL ACROSS MINNESOTA, AND SO.

THERE'S AN URGENT NEED, I THINK,
TO ADDRESS IT IN TERMS OF.  FINDING A WAY TO GET MORE MONEY
INTO OUR ROADS AND HIGHWAYS, AND.  OUR BRIDGES, BUT ALSO TO LOOK AT
THE TRANSIT SIDE AND WHAT CAN WE.  DO, ESPECIALLY, I THINK WITHIN  
THE METROPOLITAN AREA TO HELP.

SPUR SOME OF THE ECONOMIC      
DEVELOPMENT THAT CAN RESULT AS A.  RESULT OF INCREASED TRANSIT    
OPPORTUNITIES.  >> I WOULD AGREE WITH DAUDT, BUT
I THINK THE PRIMARY OBJECTIVE.  OUGHT TO BE TO BUILD            
INFRASTRUCTURE AND I THINK IT'S.

BEEN AN OVER EMPHASIS ON DO    
THINGS LIKE FUND LIGHT RAIL.  I THINK THERE DOES NEED TO BE A
GOOD TRANSIT SYSTEM, BUT IT.  SHOULD BE BUS TRANSIT THAT TAKES
ADVANTAGES OF THE ROADS AND.  BRIDGES AND SERVES THE          
NONTRANSIT AND I THINK WE HAVE.

KIND OF GOTTEN OFF TRACK.      
I SAW AN ARTICLE IN THE.  MINNEAPOLIS PAPER THAT CALLED  
THE HIAWATHA QUARTER THE WORST.  IN THE COUNTRY.

               
THIS IS A RESULT OF PUT AGO.  LIGHT RAIL LINE DOWN THAT ROAD.
PEOPLE ARE AVOIDING IT LIKE THE.  PLAGUE.

                       
THAT MONEY COULD BE BETTER.  INVESTED IN DOING THINGS TO    
FACILITATE BETTER BUS SYSTEMS,  AND WE ARE DOING THAT IN THE    
SOUTHWEST SYSTEM.  IT FRANKLY FEELS LIKE THEY ARE  
UNDER TRAP, BEING SHUT DOWN OR.  CHANGED DRAMATICALLY AS THE    
LIGHT RAIL COMES IN, AND I THINK.

IT'S A MATTER OF PRIORITIES, AND
I THINK THERE'S COMMON AGREEMENT.  THAT ROADS AND BRIDGES ARE A TOP
PRIORITY, BUT SOMETIMES WE DON'T.  ALWAYS ACT THAT WAY.            
>> I WANT TO ADD TO THAT.

I THINK THERE'S EQUAL COMMITMENT
ON OUR SIDE OF THE AISLE TO.  INVEST IN BUS TRANSPORTATION,  
ESPECIALLY IN THE EAST METRO.  WHERE I REPRESENT, WE ARE      
STRUGGLING AND FIGHTING TO GET.  INCREASED BUS SERVICE TO SERVE  
PEOPLE IN HASTINGS AND GROVE AND.

GET THEM TO WORK IN MINNEAPOLIS
AND ST. PAUL.  THE EMPHASIS IS TO SEE AN      
INTEGRATED NETWORK OR SYSTEM TO.  USE BUSES IF THAT'S THE MOST    
ECONOMICAL WAY OR IN SOME CASES.

WHERE THERE'S HIGHER DENSITY,  
LIGHT RAIL MAY BE THE MOST.  ECONOMICAL OPTION, AND THIS IS  
ALL BUILT UNDER THE.  UNDERSTANDING AS SENATOR HANN  
SAID THAT OUR COMMERCE AND.  ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN        
MINNESOTA IS LARGELY DEPENDENT.

ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THAT'S
A COMMONALITY WE SHARE THAT WE.  RECOGNIZE THAT, AND THE URGENCY,
I THINK, THOUGH, OF WHICH WE.  ADDRESS IT IS SOMETHING WE MAY  
DISAGREE ON.  >> AND WHEN IT TAKES, AS IT DID
ME TODAY, TO GO AN HOUR COMING.

BACK FROM WESTERN MINNESOTA, YOU
CAN QUICKLY SEE HOW COMMERCE IS.  CLOGGED, AND WE ARE NOT MANAGING
THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN AN.  INTEGRATED WAY, AND THAT'S WHY I
THINK WE SHOULD BE PAYING.  ATTENTION TO TRANSIT, BECAUSE  
THE TRUCKS AND BUSES ARE UNABLE.

TO DO IT WHEN EVERYONE IS SO CAR
DEPENDENT, AND WHEN PEOPLE ARE.  ABLE TO MAKE A CHOICE BETWEEN A
CAR OR BUS OR LIGHT RAIL, IT.  TAKES PRESSURE OFF OUR HIGHWAYS
AND FREEWAYS AND ALLOWS COMMERCE.  TO MOVE FORWARD.

             
THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR I SAY.  ABOUTS LIKE MY HUSBAND'S        
BUSINESS, AND HE CAN HARDLY GET.  TO THE METRO BUS AREA ANYMORE.  
>> I WISH IT WERE TRUE THAT.

LIGHT RAIL WOULD SOLVE IT.      
BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY EVIDENCE.  OF IT.                          
FOR THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE.

SPEND, I THINK WE CAN DO A LOT  
MORE INVESTMENT IN ROADS AND.  BUSES AND IT WOULD BE FAR MORE  
EFFECTIVE AND FLEXIBLE.  >> MORE HIGHER DENSITY          
POPULATION THAN WE DO.  WE NEED TO BE REALISTIC ABOUT  
THIS.

>> I WILL JUST GIVE A QUICK PLUG
TO OUR HEAVY RAIL SYSTEM.  IT'S ABOUT 6 MILES SOUTH OF    
YEAR, IT SEES 15% OF THE FREIGHT.  RAIL TRAFFIC IN THE ENTIRE      
COUNTRY.  IT'S A HUGE BOTTLE NECK TO THE  
FARMERS WHO ARE TRYING TO GET.

THEIR CROPS INTO CHICAGO AND    
ACROSS THE COUNTRY, AND IT'S A.  HUGE BOTTLE NECK FOR THE OIL    
SEED FIELDS WHICH ARE NOW USING.  OUR RAIL LINES TO SHIP OIL      
THROUGH MINNESOTA BY RAIL, AND.  THERE NEEDS TO BE INVESTMENT    
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TRANSIT.

INVESTMENT, AND ALSO IN THE    
HEAVY RAIL SYSTEM.  THIS IS AN AREA THAT I THINK THE
BUSINESS COMMUNITY HAS BEEN.  SUPPORTIVE OF AND VERY          
SUPPORTIVE OF, AND IT CAN BE A.  JOINT BENEFIT OF WHEN YOU MAKE  
THAT INVESTMENT IN THOSE LINES.

TO RELIEVE RAIL CONGESTION, AND
IT ALSO CAN HELP MOVE COMMUTERS.  ALONG THE EXISTING RAIL TRACK.  
>> COUPLE MINUTES LEFT.  CONTROVERSIAL ISSUE IN THE LAST
SEVERAL DAYS OF THE SESSION THE.

QUESTION CAME IN FROM A VIEWER  
IN HOFFMAN THAT WANTS TO TALK.  ABOUT THE DAY CARE PROVIDER    
UNIONIZATION BILL.  SENATOR MURPHY, I THINK WE WERE
HEAVILY INVOLVED IN THAT, IF I'M.  RECALLING CORRECTLY.

         
MAYBE YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY.  ABOUT THAT.                    
WE WILL TAKE A COUPLE MINUTES TO.  TALK ABOUT THAT.

             
>> I REPRESENT MIKE NELSON, AND.  ESSENTIALLY AUTHORIZES OR GIVES
CHILD CARE PROVIDERS AND.  PERSONAL CARE ASSISTANCE THEIR  
RIGHT TO CHOOSE THE RIGHT TO.  VOTE.

                         
IT'S BEEN SOMEWHAT OF A MISNOMER.  AND IT'S ESSENTIALLY GIVING    
WORKERS TO CHOOSE THE RIGHT TO.  VOTE IF THEY WOULD LIKE        
REPRESENTATION IN VOTING AND THE.  DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY IT'S A STRONG
VALUE.

I'M SUPPORTIVE AND I GREW UP IN
A UNION FAMILY.  WE SAW LARGE CUTS TO CHILD CARE
ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.  THERE'S A SUBSTANTIAL WAITING  
LIST OF FAMILIES LOOKING FOR.  HELP FOR CHILD CARE SO THEY CAN
GO TO WORK, AND WE MADE A CUT TO.

THAT BUDGET AND PROVIDERS      
PROVIDING THAT CARE.  AS A RESULT, I THINK THEY SAID  
WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING, AND WE.  NEED TO AMPLIFY OUR VOICES SO WE
ARE MAKING SURE THIS PART OF THE.  BUDGET IS AMPLY FUNDED AND ONE  
WAY TO DO THAT IS TO ORGANIZE,  AND THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE ASKING
TO DO.

THE SAME THING IS TRUE FOR THE  
PERSONAL CARE SYSTEM THAT ALSO.  WAS CUT IN THE LAST CYCLE BY    
REPUBLICANS.  >> 30 SECONDS.                  
>> THE INTERESTING THING HERE IS.

IF SOMEBODY VOTES NO, AND THESE
ARE MOMS THAT OPERATE PRIVATELY.  OWNED CELL PHONE KAY CARES AND  
IF THEY VOTE NO, THEY DON'T HAVE.  A CHOICE.                      
THAT'S NOT REAL CHOICE.

THIS IS GOING TO INCREASE THE  
COST OF DAY CARE FOR MOMS AND.  DADS WHO WORKOUTS THE HOME, AND
THEY ARE ALREADY ON STRUGGLING.  BUDGETS IN MOST CASES AND REALLY
THIS IS GOING TO STRAP THEM EVEN.  FURTHER, INCREASING THE COST OF
DAY CARE.

>> I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT,  
BUT THE FIRST QUESTION IS DO YOU.  WANT TO ORGANIZE A UNION?      
AND THAT'S THE FIRST VOTE.  >> IT'S REALLY EGREGIOUS.      
TALK ABOUT OVERREACH.

>> AND IF THEY VOTE NO.        
>> TIME OUT.  THANK YOU, EVERYBODY.          
WE WILL SETTLE THIS WITH A.

DISCUSSION FROM THE PUBLIC.    
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.  WE WILL SEE YOU NEXT YEAR IN    
2014 WITH "YOUR LEGISLATORS".  THANK YOU AND GOOD NIGHT.

     
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>>> "YOUR LEGISLATORS" IS MADE  
POSSIBLE IN PART BY THE GENEROUS.  FINANCIAL SUPPORT OF MAPE      
MEMBERS, MAKING MINNESOTA CLEAN.  WATERS, SAFE COMMUNITIES,      
QUALITY EDUCATION AND VETERANS.  CARE HAPPEN.

                 
WE WORK HARD FOR MINNESOTANS.  MINNESOTA FARMERS UNION,        
COMMITTED TO HELPING DEVELOP AND.  STRENGTHEN MINNESOTA RURAL      
COMMUNITIES SINCE 1929.  ON THE WEB AT MFU.ORG.

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Friday, May 4, 2018

Your Legislators February 12, 2015

Your Legislators February 12, 2015

>>> THE FOLLOWING PROGRAM IS A  
PRODUCTION OF PIONEER PUBLIC.  PRODUCTION OF PIONEER PUBLIC    
TELEVISION.  TELEVISION.                    
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MAJOR FUNDING FOR "YOUR        
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MINNESOTA, A STATEWIDE COALITION.  MINNESOTA, A STATEWIDE COALITION
FIGHTING FOR A 10 YEAR.  FIGHTING FOR A 10 YEAR          
COMMITMENT TO FIXING OUR DIRE.

COMMITMENT TO FIXING OUR DIRE  
TRANSPORTATION NEEDS, A SAFE.  TRANSPORTATION NEEDS, A SAFE    
RELIABLE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM.  RELIABLE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM  
STRENGTHENS MINNESOTA'S ECONOMY.  STRENGTHENS MINNESOTA'S ECONOMY.
JOIN THE CONVERSATION AT MOVE.

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EMPLOYMENT AND ENVIRONMENTAL LAW.  EMPLOYMENT AND ENVIRONMENTAL LAW
AND LOBBIESTS REPRESENT CLIENTS.  AND LOBBIESTS REPRESENT CLIENTS
AT THE STATE CAPITOL.

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MAPE MEMBERS, MAKING MINNESOTA  
CLEAN WATERS, SAFE COMMUNITIES,  CLEAN WATERS, SAFE COMMUNITIES,
QUALITY EDUCATION AND VETERANS.  QUALITY EDUCATION AND VETERANS  
CARE HAPPEN.  CARE HAPPEN.                    
WE WORK HARD FOR MINNESOTANS.

WE WORK HARD FOR MINNESOTANS.  
>>> LIVE FROM ST. PAUL,  >>> LIVE FROM ST. PAUL,        
MINNESOTA WE WELCOME YOU TO THE.

MINNESOTA WE WELCOME YOU TO THE
35th SESSION OF "YOUR.  35Th SESSION OF "YOUR          
LEGISLATORS", A ROUNDTABLE.  LEGISLATORS", A ROUNDTABLE      
DISCUSSION FEATURING STATE.  DISCUSSION FEATURING STATE      
LAWMAKERS WHO ARE PREPARED TO.

LAWMAKERS WHO ARE PREPARED TO  
ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS AND.  ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS AND      
DISCUSS IMPORTANT ISSUES.  DISCUSS IMPORTANT ISSUES        
AFFECTING THE CITIZENS OF.  AFFECTING THE CITIZENS OF      
MINNESOTA.

MINNESOTA.                      
>>> NOW, HERE IS YOUR MODERATOR.  >>> NOW, HERE IS YOUR MODERATOR
FOR TONIGHT'S PROGRAM, BARRY.  FOR TONIGHT'S PROGRAM, BARRY    
ANDERSON.

ANDERSON.                      
>> GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO.  >> GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO
THIS WEEK'S VERSION OF "YOUR.  THIS WEEK'S VERSION OF "YOUR    
LEGISLATORS".

LEGISLATORS".                  
WE ARE DELIGHTED YOU HAVE JOINED.  WE ARE DELIGHTED YOU HAVE JOINED
US FOR OUR HOUR OF CONVERSATION.  US FOR OUR HOUR OF CONVERSATION
ABOUT IMPORTANT ISSUES FACING.

ABOUT IMPORTANT ISSUES FACING  
MINNESOTA.  MINNESOTA.                      
I WANT TO REMIND YOU THIS IS.  I WANT TO REMIND YOU THIS IS    
YOUR PROGRAM, NOT OURS, AND WE.

YOUR PROGRAM, NOT OURS, AND WE  
INVITE YOU TO CALL THE QUESTIONS.  INVITE YOU TO CALL THE QUESTIONS
IN OR SEND THEM IN.  IN OR SEND THEM IN              
ELECTRONICALLY, AND WE ARE SO.  ELECTRONICALLY, AND WE ARE SO  
HIGH TECH WE CAN'T STAND IT, AND.

HIGH TECH WE CAN'T STAND IT, AND
WE ARE ON FACEBOOK AND TWITTER,  WE ARE ON FACEBOOK AND TWITTER,
AND FOLLOW US ON TWITTER HASHTAG.  AND FOLLOW US ON TWITTER HASHTAG
"YOUR LEGISLATORS".  "YOUR LEGISLATORS".            
WE BEGIN THIS PROGRAM EACH WEEK.

WE BEGIN THIS PROGRAM EACH WEEK
BY INTRODUCING OUR PANEL OF.  BY INTRODUCING OUR PANEL OF    
GUESTS THAT HELP US UNRAVEL THE.  GUESTS THAT HELP US UNRAVEL THE
MYSTERIES OF ST. PAUL.

MYSTERIES OF ST. PAUL.          
WE HAVE A COUPLE OF FOLKS THAT.  WE HAVE A COUPLE OF FOLKS THAT  
HAVEN'T BEEN WITH US IN THE PAST.

HAVEN'T BEEN WITH US IN THE PAST
OR IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.  OR IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
WE HAVE IN NORTH MANKATO CLARK.  WE HAVE IN NORTH MANKATO CLARK  
JOHNSON.

JOHNSON.                        
REPRESENTATIVE JOHNSON AND I HAD.  REPRESENTATIVE JOHNSON AND I HAD
AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXCHANGE.  AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXCHANGE      
NOTES.

NOTES.                          
HE WAS WHERE I WAS FROM BUT WE.  HE WAS WHERE I WAS FROM BUT WE  
WON'T INFLICT THAT ON THE.  WON'T INFLICT THAT ON THE      
VIEWERS.

VIEWERS.                        
INSTEAD TELL OUR VIEWERS ABOUT.  INSTEAD TELL OUR VIEWERS ABOUT  
YOURSELF, WHAT YOU DO, YOUR DAY.  YOURSELF, WHAT YOU DO, YOUR DAY
JOB.

JOB.                            
INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO OUR.  INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO OUR      
VIEWERS.  VIEWERS.

                     
>> THANK YOU.  >> THANK YOU.                  
I LIVE IN NORTH MANKATO, AND I.  I LIVE IN NORTH MANKATO, AND I  
LIVE WITH MY WIFE APRIL.

LIVE WITH MY WIFE APRIL.        
WE HAVE BEEN MARRIED MORE THAN.  WE HAVE BEEN MARRIED MORE THAN  
30 YEARS, AND I WORK AT.  30 YEARS, AND I WORK AT        
MINNESOTA STATE UNIVERSITY.

MINNESOTA STATE UNIVERSITY      
MANKATO, AND I HAVE BEEN A.  MANKATO, AND I HAVE BEEN A      
PROFESSOR THERE FOR 30 YEARS,  PROFESSOR THERE FOR 30 YEARS,  
AND OVER THE YEARS I WAS AN.  AND OVER THE YEARS I WAS AN    
ACADEMIC ADVISOR AND SEMIRETIRED.  ACADEMIC ADVISOR AND SEMIRETIRED
FROM THAT, AND I STILL PREPARE.

FROM THAT, AND I STILL PREPARE  
SECONDARY SOCIAL STUDIES.  SECONDARY SOCIAL STUDIES        
TEACHERS, AND MANY OF THE.  TEACHERS, AND MANY OF THE      
CHILDREN WATCHING THE SHOW OR.  CHILDREN WATCHING THE SHOW OR  
THE SONS AND DAUGHTERS,  THE SONS AND DAUGHTERS,        
HOPEFULLY OUT THERE TEACHING A.

HOPEFULLY OUT THERE TEACHING A  
LOT ABOUT CIVICS AND HISTORY AND.  LOT ABOUT CIVICS AND HISTORY AND
ECONOMICS.  ECONOMICS.                      
>> AND THIS IS YOUR SECOND TERM,  >> AND THIS IS YOUR SECOND TERM,
I BELIEVE.

I BELIEVE.                      
IS THAT RIGHT?  IS THAT RIGHT?                  
>> I WON A SPECIAL ELECTION IN.  >> I WON A SPECIAL ELECTION IN  
2013 IN FEBRUARY, AND I ARRIVED.  2013 IN FEBRUARY, AND I ARRIVED
A LITTLE LATE, WHICH IS AN.

A LITTLE LATE, WHICH IS AN      
INTERESTING CHALLENGE, BUT I.  INTERESTING CHALLENGE, BUT I    
HAVE ENJOYED IT A LOT, AND I WON.  HAVE ENJOYED IT A LOT, AND I WON
REELECTION THIS FALL.  REELECTION THIS FALL.

         
>> THE COMMITTEES YOU SERVE ON.  >> THE COMMITTEES YOU SERVE ON  
AND SO FORTH.  AND SO FORTH.                  
>> THREE COMMITTEES, ACTUALLY.

>> THREE COMMITTEES, ACTUALLY  
FOUR.  FOUR.                          
AG FINANCE, AND CULTURAL POLICY,  AG FINANCE, AND CULTURAL POLICY,
AND ALSO SERVE ON THE.  AND ALSO SERVE ON THE          
ENVIRONMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES.

ENVIRONMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES
AND ALSO SERVE ON THE.  AND ALSO SERVE ON THE          
TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE.  TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE.      
>> ALSO JOINING US FROM EDINA,  >> ALSO JOINING US FROM EDINA,  
DISTRICT 49, SENATOR MELISSA.

DISTRICT 49, SENATOR MELISSA    
FRANZEN.  FRANZEN.                        
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.  >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

   
FIRST TERM SENATOR FROM EDINA.  FIRST TERM SENATOR FROM EDINA  
AND REPRESENT BLOOMINGTON, AND.  AND REPRESENT BLOOMINGTON, AND  
SERVE ON THE HIGHER ED COMMITTEE.  SERVE ON THE HIGHER ED COMMITTEE
ON THE TRANSPORTATION AND.

ON THE TRANSPORTATION AND      
FINANCE COMMITTEE AND PUBLIC.  FINANCE COMMITTEE AND PUBLIC    
SAFETY AND ON THE HEALTH AND.  SAFETY AND ON THE HEALTH AND    
HUMAN SERVICES FINANCE.  HUMAN SERVICES FINANCE          
COMMITTEE, AND I'M VICE CHAIR OF.

COMMITTEE, AND I'M VICE CHAIR OF
THAT COMMITTEE, AND I'M AN.  THAT COMMITTEE, AND I'M AN      
ATTORNEY BY TRADE, AND IN THE.  ATTORNEY BY TRADE, AND IN THE  
LAST 6 MONTHS I STARTED MY OWN.  LAST 6 MONTHS I STARTED MY OWN  
BUSINESS AND LEFT THE CORPORATE.

BUSINESS AND LEFT THE CORPORATE
WORLD AND BALANCING THAT WITH.  WORLD AND BALANCING THAT WITH  
THE WORLD IN THE SENATE.  THE WORLD IN THE SENATE.        
>> AS SOMEONE WHO WAS A.

>> AS SOMEONE WHO WAS A        
SELF-EMPLOYED LAWYER FOR MANY.  SELF-EMPLOYED LAWYER FOR MANY  
YEARS, I SYMPATHIZE.  YEARS, I SYMPATHIZE.            
SENATOR FRANZEN VISIT TO HAMLIN.

SENATOR FRANZEN VISIT TO HAMLIN
TO ENCOURAGE WHERE YOU WENT TO.  TO ENCOURAGE WHERE YOU WENT TO  
LAW SCHOOL OR ENCOURAGING LAW.  LAW SCHOOL OR ENCOURAGING LAW  
SCHOOL STUDENTS TO CONSIDER.  SCHOOL STUDENTS TO CONSIDER    
WORKING OPPORTUNITIES.

WORKING OPPORTUNITIES.          
WE ARE DELIGHTED YOU COULD JOIN.  WE ARE DELIGHTED YOU COULD JOIN
US.  US.

                           
WHAT COMMITTEE DID YOU SERVE ON,  WHAT COMMITTEE DID YOU SERVE ON,
THINGS OF THAT SORT?  THINGS OF THAT SORT?            
>> HIGHER ED COMMITTEE,  >> HIGHER ED COMMITTEE,        
TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE AND.  TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE AND    
HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES.  HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES      
FINANCE COMMITTEE.  FINANCE COMMITTEE.

           
>> FROM ROCHESTER, A FREQUENT.  >> FROM ROCHESTER, A FREQUENT  
GUEST WITH US, SENATOR KARLA.  GUEST WITH US, SENATOR KARLA    
NELSON.  NELSON.

                       
TELL OUR VIEWERS ABOUT YOURSELF.  TELL OUR VIEWERS ABOUT YOURSELF.
>> GOOD EVENING.  >> GOOD EVENING.                
IT'S GREAT TO BE HERE.

IT'S GREAT TO BE HERE.          
I LIVE IN ROCHESTER, AND.  I LIVE IN ROCHESTER, AND        
REPRESENT ROCHESTER AND MOST OF.  REPRESENT ROCHESTER AND MOST OF
OLMSTED COUNTY.

OLMSTED COUNTY.                
SERVE ON BONDING, TAXES, HIGHER.  SERVE ON BONDING, TAXES, HIGHER
EDUCATION, JOB, AGES RURAL.  EDUCATION, JOB, AGES RURAL      
DEVELOPMENT AND HEALTH AND HUMAN.

DEVELOPMENT AND HEALTH AND HUMAN
SERVICES.  SERVICES.                      
THE GOOD NEWS IS BY THE TIME THE.  THE GOOD NEWS IS BY THE TIME THE
BILLS GET TO THE SENATE FLOOR, I.

BILLS GET TO THE SENATE FLOOR, I
HAVE PROBABLY HEARD A GOOD.  HAVE PROBABLY HEARD A GOOD      
MAJORITY OF THEM IN COMMITTEE.  MAJORITY OF THEM IN COMMITTEE.  
>> AND THERE'S A LOT OF.

>> AND THERE'S A LOT OF        
CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY IN.  CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY IN        
ROCHESTER THAT MAYBE WE WILL.  ROCHESTER THAT MAYBE WE WILL    
HAVE A CHANCE TO VISIT A LITTLE.  HAVE A CHANCE TO VISIT A LITTLE
BIT.

BIT.                            
>> WE COULD DO A SHOW ON THAT.  >> WE COULD DO A SHOW ON THAT.  
>> WE ASSURE OUR VIEWERS WE WILL.

>> WE ASSURE OUR VIEWERS WE WILL
TALK ABOUT OTHER THINGS.  TALK ABOUT OTHER THINGS.        
JOINING US FOR THE FIRST TIME,  JOINING US FOR THE FIRST TIME,  
ALSO, AND FROM DISTRICT 44A.  ALSO, AND FROM DISTRICT 44A    
SARAH ANDERSON.

SARAH ANDERSON.                
FIRST, WE ARE NOT RELATED,  FIRST, WE ARE NOT RELATED,      
RIGHT?  RIGHT?                          
>> BY MARRIAGE FOR ME.  >> BY MARRIAGE FOR ME.          
I'M SARAH ANDERSON, AND.

I'M SARAH ANDERSON, AND        
REPRESENT THE AREA OF PLYMOUTH.  REPRESENT THE AREA OF PLYMOUTH  
WHICH IS A WESTERN SUBURB IF YOU.  WHICH IS A WESTERN SUBURB IF YOU
ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA.  ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA.


I ACTUALLY GREW UP IN ATWATER,  I ACTUALLY GREW UP IN ATWATER,  
AND MARRIED TO MY HUSBAND PAUL,  AND MARRIED TO MY HUSBAND PAUL,
AND HE'S A SCHOOLTEACHER.  AND HE'S A SCHOOLTEACHER.      
TEACHES PHYSICS.  TEACHES PHYSICS.

             
I HAVE A SON COLE, AND GETTING.  I HAVE A SON COLE, AND GETTING  
READY FOR HIS VALENTINE'S DAY.  READY FOR HIS VALENTINE'S DAY  
PARTY TOMORROW, WHICH I'M NOT.  PARTY TOMORROW, WHICH I'M NOT  
PREPARED FOR.

PREPARED FOR.                  
BUT I ALSO SERVE ON THE.  BUT I ALSO SERVE ON THE        
COMMITTEES, AND CHAIR OF THE.  COMMITTEES, AND CHAIR OF THE    
STATE GOVERNMENT FINANCE.

STATE GOVERNMENT FINANCE        
COMMITTEE, AND I ALSO SERVE ON.  COMMITTEE, AND I ALSO SERVE ON  
TAXES WAYS AND MEANS AND.  TAXES WAYS AND MEANS AND        
COMMERCE.  COMMERCE.

                     
>> WE HAVE GOT MANY QUESTIONS.  >> WE HAVE GOT MANY QUESTIONS  
FROM OUR VIEWERS, BUT I SUPPOSE.  FROM OUR VIEWERS, BUT I SUPPOSE
WE HAVE TO START OFF WITH THE.  WE HAVE TO START OFF WITH THE  
ISSUE THAT'S BEEN SORT OF.

ISSUE THAT'S BEEN SORT OF      
DRIVING TWITTER CRAZY OVER THE.  DRIVING TWITTER CRAZY OVER THE  
LAST FEW HOURS, AND IT'S THE.  LAST FEW HOURS, AND IT'S THE    
BUSINESS ABOUT COMMISSIONER.  BUSINESS ABOUT COMMISSIONER    
SALARIES, AND THERE'S BEEN.

SALARIES, AND THERE'S BEEN      
ACTION IN THE SENATE AND PRESS.  ACTION IN THE SENATE AND PRESS  
CONFERENCES AND WHAT NOT.  CONFERENCES AND WHAT NOT        
HAPPENING, AND MAYBE START WITH.  HAPPENING, AND MAYBE START WITH
OUR VETERAN SENATOR, SENATOR.

OUR VETERAN SENATOR, SENATOR    
NELSON.  NELSON.                        
I THINK MAYBE YOU COULD BRING.  I THINK MAYBE YOU COULD BRING  
OUR VIEWERS UP TO SPEED ON WHAT.

OUR VIEWERS UP TO SPEED ON WHAT
HAPPENED.  HAPPENED.                      
>> I WILL TELL YOU IT REALLY.  >> I WILL TELL YOU IT REALLY    
STARTED LAST WEEK WHEN THE.

STARTED LAST WEEK WHEN THE      
GOVERNOR DID THE MASSIVE PAY.  GOVERNOR DID THE MASSIVE PAY    
HIKES FOR COMMISSIONERS, AND MY.  HIKES FOR COMMISSIONERS, AND MY
E-MAIL STARTED BLOWING UP WITH.  E-MAIL STARTED BLOWING UP WITH  
CITIZENS REALLY ALL ACROSS THE.

CITIZENS REALLY ALL ACROSS THE  
STATE, AND HIS COMMISSIONER IS.  STATE, AND HIS COMMISSIONER IS  
PAID BY 19%, AND 20%, 30%, 40%,  PAID BY 19%, AND 20%, 30%, 40%,
AND THOSE ARE MASSIVE PAY HIKES.  AND THOSE ARE MASSIVE PAY HIKES
MINNESOTANS AREN'T SEEN.  MINNESOTANS AREN'T SEEN.

     
WHAT CAUSED THE TWITTER VERSE TO.  WHAT CAUSED THE TWITTER VERSE TO
GET SO EXCITED WAS IN THE SENATE.  GET SO EXCITED WAS IN THE SENATE
WE PASSED AN AMENDMENT WHICH.  WE PASSED AN AMENDMENT WHICH    
BASICALLY SUSPENDED THOSE.

BASICALLY SUSPENDED THOSE      
MASSIVE PAY HIKES REALLY JUST.  MASSIVE PAY HIKES REALLY JUST  
UNTIL JULY, BUT INTERESTINGLY.  UNTIL JULY, BUT INTERESTINGLY  
ENOUGH, SENATOR BLOCK OFFERED.  ENOUGH, SENATOR BLOCK OFFERED  
THAT AMENDMENT, AND IT DID PASS.

THAT AMENDMENT, AND IT DID PASS.
WE OFFERED ANOTHER AMENDMENT.  WE OFFERED ANOTHER AMENDMENT    
THAT REMOVED THE GOVERNOR'S.  THAT REMOVED THE GOVERNOR'S    
UNILATERAL AUTHORITY TO DO THAT.  UNILATERAL AUTHORITY TO DO THAT
IN THE FIRST PLACE, BUT THAT.

IN THE FIRST PLACE, BUT THAT    
AMENDMENT DID NOT PASS, AND I.  AMENDMENT DID NOT PASS, AND I  
THINK THE FIREWORKS HAPPENED.  THINK THE FIREWORKS HAPPENED    
AFTERWARDS AT THE PRESS.  AFTERWARDS AT THE PRESS        
CONFERENCE, AND THE GOVERNOR.

CONFERENCE, AND THE GOVERNOR    
DIDN'T MINCE ANY WORDS.  DIDN'T MINCE ANY WORDS.        
HE SAID THAT SENATOR BAKK.  HE SAID THAT SENATOR BAKK      
STABBED HIM IN THE BACK.

STABBED HIM IN THE BACK.        
SO AND THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER.  SO AND THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER  
BARBS THAT WERE THROWN.  BARBS THAT WERE THROWN.

       
BUT THE GOVERNOR THREAT THANKED.  BUT THE GOVERNOR THREAT THANKED
TO VETO ON ENTIRE DEFICIENCY.  TO VETO ON ENTIRE DEFICIENCY    
BILL, BECAUSE HE DIDN'T LIKE THE.  BILL, BECAUSE HE DIDN'T LIKE THE
AMENDMENTS ABOUT THE PAY RAISES,  AMENDMENTS ABOUT THE PAY RAISES,
AND I THINK THAT'S VERY.

AND I THINK THAT'S VERY        
DANGEROUS FOR THE GOVERNOR TO.  DANGEROUS FOR THE GOVERNOR TO  
VETO THAT ENTIRE BILL.  VETO THAT ENTIRE BILL.          
IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT THINGS.

IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT THINGS    
LIKE SAFETY, HOSPITAL AT ST.  LIKE SAFETY, HOSPITAL AT ST.    
PETER'S AND I WOULD NOT WANT TO.  PETER'S AND I WOULD NOT WANT TO
HAVE THAT ON MY RECORD BECAUSE.

HAVE THAT ON MY RECORD BECAUSE  
THIS BILL HAD BEEN VETOED BY THE.  THIS BILL HAD BEEN VETOED BY THE
GOVERNOR EBOLA.  GOVERNOR EBOLA.                
CERTAINLY I DO HOPE THE GOVERNOR.

CERTAINLY I DO HOPE THE GOVERNOR
RECONSIDERS AND DOES NOT VETO.  RECONSIDERS AND DOES NOT VETO  
THAT DEFICIENCY BILL, AND IT'S.  THAT DEFICIENCY BILL, AND IT'S  
KIND OF A FAMILY FEUD, AND THE.  KIND OF A FAMILY FEUD, AND THE  
FDR SENATE AND GOVERNOR RIGHT.

FDR SENATE AND GOVERNOR RIGHT  
NOW.  NOW.                            
>> OF COURSE IF THERE'S A VETO,  >> OF COURSE IF THERE'S A VETO,
IT CAN BE SPLIT AND PARTS CAN BE.  IT CAN BE SPLIT AND PARTS CAN BE
PASSED SEPARATELY AS WELL, I.

PASSED SEPARATELY AS WELL, I    
ASSUME, RIGHT?  ASSUME, RIGHT?                  
>> YOU STILL HAVE TO HAVE.  >> YOU STILL HAVE TO HAVE      
ANOTHER BILL.  ANOTHER BILL.                  
>> LET'S ASK SENATOR FRANZEN,  >> LET'S ASK SENATOR FRANZEN,  
WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT.

WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT  
THAT AND WHERE DOWNING IT'S.  THAT AND WHERE DOWNING IT'S    
GOING?  GOING?                          
>> I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR.  >> I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR    
SENATOR BAKK OR THE GOVERNOR,  SENATOR BAKK OR THE GOVERNOR,  
AND I HAVE SEEN A LITTLE BIT OF.  AND I HAVE SEEN A LITTLE BIT OF
MEDIA ON THIS.

MEDIA ON THIS.                  
THIS.  THIS.                          
IT'S A DEFICIENCY BILL THAT'S.

IT'S A DEFICIENCY BILL THAT'S  
NEEDED AND THIS ISSUE IS.  NEEDED AND THIS ISSUE IS        
IMPORTANT FOR THE GOVERNOR, AND.  IMPORTANT FOR THE GOVERNOR, AND
I CAME FROM A PRIVATE SECTOR AND.  I CAME FROM A PRIVATE SECTOR AND
I UNDERSTAND COMPETITIVENESS AND.

I UNDERSTAND COMPETITIVENESS AND
TRYING TO RECRUIT TOP TALENT.  TRYING TO RECRUIT TOP TALENT.  
WE HAVE TO DO IT CAUTIOUSLY, AND.  WE HAVE TO DO IT CAUTIOUSLY, AND
THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM AND TIME.

THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM AND TIME
FOR NEGOTIATIONS IN THIS.  FOR NEGOTIATIONS IN THIS        
SESSION, AND THIS IS ONLY THE.  SESSION, AND THIS IS ONLY THE  
BEGINNING, I'M SURE THE BOYS.  BEGINNING, I'M SURE THE BOYS    
WILL FIGURE IT OUT.

WILL FIGURE IT OUT.            
>> REPRESENTATIVE JOHNSON, YOUR.  >> REPRESENTATIVE JOHNSON, YOUR
THOUGHTS ON THIS DUST-UP AND.  THOUGHTS ON THIS DUST-UP AND    
WHERE IT MIGHT LEAD.

WHERE IT MIGHT LEAD.            
>> I'M SENSITIVE TO THIS BECAUSE.  >> I'M SENSITIVE TO THIS BECAUSE
THE DEFICIENCY BILL IS PRIMARILY.  THE DEFICIENCY BILL IS PRIMARILY
FUNDING FOR THE SECURITY.

FUNDING FOR THE SECURITY        
HOSPITAL.  HOSPITAL.                      
THE SECURITY HOSPITAL HAS BEEN.  THE SECURITY HOSPITAL HAS BEEN  
UNDER A LOT OF CHALLENGE IN THE.

UNDER A LOT OF CHALLENGE IN THE
LAST 6, 8, 10 MONTHS, AND THEY.  LAST 6, 8, 10 MONTHS, AND THEY  
NEED THAT FUNDING BADLY.  NEED THAT FUNDING BADLY.        
THE FUNDING WENT TO PROVIDE.

THE FUNDING WENT TO PROVIDE    
CAMERAS TO COVER SOME AREAS.  CAMERAS TO COVER SOME AREAS    
WHERE THERE'S POOR SITE LINES,  WHERE THERE'S POOR SITE LINES,  
AND IT WAS USED TO REMODEL OR DO.  AND IT WAS USED TO REMODEL OR DO
A SHORT-TERM REMODEL ON THE.  A SHORT-TERM REMODEL ON THE    
FACILITY, AND THE ADMISSIONS.

FACILITY, AND THE ADMISSIONS    
UNIT FROM A VERY SECURE AND.  UNIT FROM A VERY SECURE AND    
DANGEROUS UNIT.  DANGEROUS UNIT.                
IT BROUGHT ON 60 NEW STAFF.

IT BROUGHT ON 60 NEW STAFF.    
IT CONTINUES TO BE AFFLICTED.  IT CONTINUES TO BE AFFLICTED    
WITH ASSAULTS, AND THERE'S A LOT.  WITH ASSAULTS, AND THERE'S A LOT
OF ISSUES GOING ON, AND IF WE WE.

OF ISSUES GOING ON, AND IF WE WE
WANT PAST THE DEFICIENCY BILL WE.  WANT PAST THE DEFICIENCY BILL WE
ARE LOOKING AT NOT BEING ABLE TO.  ARE LOOKING AT NOT BEING ABLE TO
TAKE PATIENTS AT THE HOSPITAL,  TAKE PATIENTS AT THE HOSPITAL,  
POSSIBLE LAYOFFS, AND THIS IS.  POSSIBLE LAYOFFS, AND THIS IS  
BAD NEWS.

BAD NEWS.                      
I THINK WE ALL NEED TO RECOGNIZE.  I THINK WE ALL NEED TO RECOGNIZE
IT'S A VERY CHALLENGING PLACE TO.  IT'S A VERY CHALLENGING PLACE TO
MANAGE AND CERTAINLY TO WORK IN,  MANAGE AND CERTAINLY TO WORK IN,
AND SAFETY AND SECURITY FOR THE.

AND SAFETY AND SECURITY FOR THE
PATIENTS IS REALLY CRITICAL.  PATIENTS IS REALLY CRITICAL.    
SO THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT'S.  SO THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT'S  
MERITED FOR ANY KIND OF A.

MERITED FOR ANY KIND OF A      
POLITICAL FOOTBALL, AND I WAS IN.  POLITICAL FOOTBALL, AND I WAS IN
THE HOUSE WAYS AND MEANS.  THE HOUSE WAYS AND MEANS        
COMMITTEE LAST MONDAY WHEN THIS.  COMMITTEE LAST MONDAY WHEN THIS
WAS BROUGHT UP ALSO IN THE HOUSE.

WAS BROUGHT UP ALSO IN THE HOUSE
WAYS AND MEANS COMMITTEE, AND IN.  WAYS AND MEANS COMMITTEE, AND IN
THIS CASE IT WAS THE GOP, AND.  THIS CASE IT WAS THE GOP, AND  
ALL I COULD THINK OF WAS LET'S.  ALL I COULD THINK OF WAS LET'S  
KEEP POLITICS OUT OF IT, AND I.

KEEP POLITICS OUT OF IT, AND I  
REALLY ASK THAT BE DONE.  REALLY ASK THAT BE DONE.        
IF I HAVE THE POWER, I SAY WE.  IF I HAVE THE POWER, I SAY WE  
NEED A COOLING OFF PERIOD, AND.

NEED A COOLING OFF PERIOD, AND  
LET'S SET THE PAY RAISE STUFF.  LET'S SET THE PAY RAISE STUFF  
ASIDE ON BOTH SIDES, PULL IT OUT.  ASIDE ON BOTH SIDES, PULL IT OUT
OF THE BILL AND PASS THAT.  OF THE BILL AND PASS THAT      
DEFICIENCY BILL, MOVE FORWARD.

DEFICIENCY BILL, MOVE FORWARD  
AND DEAL WITH THAT IN A MORE.  AND DEAL WITH THAT IN A MORE    
RATIONAL MANNER.  RATIONAL MANNER.                
IF THERE COULD BE A COOLING OFF.

IF THERE COULD BE A COOLING OFF
PERIOD, THE STATE WOULD BENEFIT.  PERIOD, THE STATE WOULD BENEFIT
THAT, AND THE FOLKS THAT WORK AT.  THAT, AND THE FOLKS THAT WORK AT
THE SECURITY HOSPITAL WOULD.  THE SECURITY HOSPITAL WOULD    
DEFINITELY BENEFIT FROM THAT.

DEFINITELY BENEFIT FROM THAT.  
>> REPRESENTATIVE ANDERSON.  >> REPRESENTATIVE ANDERSON.    
>> I HAVE A LOT OF.

>> I HAVE A LOT OF              
COMMISSIONERS, AND SALARIES ARE.  COMMISSIONERS, AND SALARIES ARE
UNDER MY JURISDICTION, AND MY.  UNDER MY JURISDICTION, AND MY  
BIGGEST CONCERN IS HOW IT'S.  BIGGEST CONCERN IS HOW IT'S    
GOING TO IMPACT THE OVERALL.

GOING TO IMPACT THE OVERALL    
BUDGET.  BUDGET.                        
WE HAVE A $1 BILLION SURPLUS,  WE HAVE A $1 BILLION SURPLUS,  
AND I DON'T THINK THE CITIZENS.  AND I DON'T THINK THE CITIZENS  
OF MINNESOTA EXPECTED THAT TO.

OF MINNESOTA EXPECTED THAT TO  
HAPPEN.  HAPPEN.                        
WE TALK ABOUT THE POLITICAL.  WE TALK ABOUT THE POLITICAL    
POIAPPOINTEES.

POIAPPOINTEES.                  
I THINK IT'S THE WRONG MESSAGE.  I THINK IT'S THE WRONG MESSAGE  
TO SEND THEM, THAT THESE.  TO SEND THEM, THAT THESE        
SALARIES ARE A HIGHER PRIORITY,  SALARIES ARE A HIGHER PRIORITY,
WHETHER IT'S TRANSPORTATION OR.

WHETHER IT'S TRANSPORTATION OR  
EDUCATION OR WHATEVER YOU ARE.  EDUCATION OR WHATEVER YOU ARE  
PASSIONATE ABOUT.  PASSIONATE ABOUT.              
I THINK THAT'S A BIG CONCERN.

I THINK THAT'S A BIG CONCERN    
THAT I HAVE, AND I THINK THAT WE.  THAT I HAVE, AND I THINK THAT WE
HAVE TO PEEL BACK THE AUTHORITY.  HAVE TO PEEL BACK THE AUTHORITY
THAT THE GOVERNOR WAS GIVEN IN.  THAT THE GOVERNOR WAS GIVEN IN  
2013.

2013.                          
I DIDN'T SUPPORT IT.  I DIDN'T SUPPORT IT.            
IT'S A GOOD TIME TO REIGN THAT.

IT'S A GOOD TIME TO REIGN THAT  
BACK IN.  BACK IN.                        
NOBODY SHOULD HAVE THE.  NOBODY SHOULD HAVE THE          
UNILATERAL OPPORTUNITY TO DO.

UNILATERAL OPPORTUNITY TO DO    
THAT.  THAT.                          
REPRESENTATIVE -- OR SENATOR.  REPRESENTATIVE -- OR SENATOR.

 
>> ONCE A REP ALWAYS A REP.  >> ONCE A REP ALWAYS A REP.    
>> I'M SURE WE INSULTED.  >> I'M SURE WE INSULTED        
SOMEBODY, BUT I'M NOT SURE WHO.

SOMEBODY, BUT I'M NOT SURE WHO.
>> I HAVE GOTTEN NUMEROUS.  >> I HAVE GOTTEN NUMEROUS      
E-MAILS FROM CONSTITUENTS AND.  E-MAILS FROM CONSTITUENTS AND  
PEOPLE ACROSS THE STATE, AND.

PEOPLE ACROSS THE STATE, AND    
IT'S STRUCK A CHORD WITH THEM.  IT'S STRUCK A CHORD WITH THEM.  
II HAD A SINGLE MOTHER SAY I HAE.  II HAD A SINGLE MOTHER SAY I HAE
THREE KIDS IN COLLEGE, AND YOU.

THREE KIDS IN COLLEGE, AND YOU  
ARE DOING THIS WITH MY TAXPAYER.  ARE DOING THIS WITH MY TAXPAYER
DOLLARS.  DOLLARS.                        
I HAVE STATE EMPLOYEES THAT SAY.

I HAVE STATE EMPLOYEES THAT SAY
THIS SHOULD NOT BE HAPPENING,  THIS SHOULD NOT BE HAPPENING,  
AND I THINK THE PUBLIC HAS GREAT.  AND I THINK THE PUBLIC HAS GREAT
CONCERNS ABOUT THIS, AND WE NEED.  CONCERNS ABOUT THIS, AND WE NEED
TO ADDRESS IT QUICKLY AND GET IT.  TO ADDRESS IT QUICKLY AND GET IT
DONE WITH.

DONE WITH.                      
I AGREE IT SHOULDN'T BE.  I AGREE IT SHOULDN'T BE        
IMPACTING THE DEFICIENCY BILL.  IMPACTING THE DEFICIENCY BILL  
WHEN THE GOVERNOR SAID HE WOULD.

WHEN THE GOVERNOR SAID HE WOULD
VETO THE BILL.  VETO THE BILL.                  
HOPEFULLY THE LARR LEGISLATURE,E.  HOPEFULLY THE LARR LEGISLATURE,E
WILL LET HIM KNOW IF IT HAPPENS.

WILL LET HIM KNOW IF IT HAPPENS
I SUSPECT WE HAVEN'T HEARD OF.  I SUSPECT WE HAVEN'T HEARD OF  
LAST OF THIS.  LAST OF THIS.                  
WE HAVE A VIEWER FROM PINE RIVER.

WE HAVE A VIEWER FROM PINE RIVER
THAT WANTS TO TALK ABOUT THE.  THAT WANTS TO TALK ABOUT THE    
ENBRIDGE SAND RIVER PIPELINE.  ENBRIDGE SAND RIVER PIPELINE.  
WHETHER OR NOT THIS KIND OF.

WHETHER OR NOT THIS KIND OF    
PIPELINE WILL GET ANY.  PIPELINE WILL GET ANY          
LEGISLATIVE ACTION.  LEGISLATIVE ACTION.            
ANYBODY WANT TO TAKE A CRACK AT.

ANYBODY WANT TO TAKE A CRACK AT
THAT, THE PIPELINE ISSUE?  THAT, THE PIPELINE ISSUE?      
SENATOR NELSON?  SENATOR NELSON?                
>> THAT DOES NOT GO THROUGH MY.  >> THAT DOES NOT GO THROUGH MY  
DISTRICT, BUT THIS IS AN.  DISTRICT, BUT THIS IS AN        
IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR ALL OF.  IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR ALL OF      
MINNESOTANS, AND BECAUSE THAT.

MINNESOTANS, AND BECAUSE THAT  
PIPELINE HAS BEEN SO DELAYED IN.  PIPELINE HAS BEEN SO DELAYED IN
GETTING THAT PUC APPROVAL, ONE.  GETTING THAT PUC APPROVAL, ONE  
OF THE THINGS WE SAW HAPPEN THIS.  OF THE THINGS WE SAW HAPPEN THIS
FALL PARTICULARLY WAS THE OIL.

FALL PARTICULARLY WAS THE OIL  
THAT WAS BEING BROUGHT THROUGH.  THAT WAS BEING BROUGHT THROUGH  
ON RAILCARS THAT COULD HAVE COME.  ON RAILCARS THAT COULD HAVE COME
ON THE PIPELINE, AND I WAS AT.  ON THE PIPELINE, AND I WAS AT  
ONE OF THE TRANSPORTATION.

ONE OF THE TRANSPORTATION      
HEARINGS, AND HAD THAT PIPELINE.  HEARINGS, AND HAD THAT PIPELINE
BEEN IN PLACE, IT WOULD REPLACE.  BEEN IN PLACE, IT WOULD REPLACE
300 UNIT TRAINS A DAY, THE OIL.  300 UNIT TRAINS A DAY, THE OIL  
THAT IS BEING SHIPPED FROM OUR.

THAT IS BEING SHIPPED FROM OUR  
NEIGHBOR TO THE WEST, AND WITH.  NEIGHBOR TO THE WEST, AND WITH  
THAT MASSIVE AMOUNT OF OIL.  THAT MASSIVE AMOUNT OF OIL      
COMING THROUGH ON THE FREIGHT,  COMING THROUGH ON THE FREIGHT,  
ON THE RAIL, IT'S THE CONDUCT OF.  ON THE RAIL, IT'S THE CONDUCT OF
THE RAIL LINES, AND POSED SAFETY.

THE RAIL LINES, AND POSED SAFETY
ISSUES FOR THE COMMUNITIES ALONG.  ISSUES FOR THE COMMUNITIES ALONG
THAT LINE, AND IT ALSO HAS.  THAT LINE, AND IT ALSO HAS      
CAUSED COMMODITIES NOT TO BE.  CAUSED COMMODITIES NOT TO BE    
ABLE TO GET TO WHERE THEY NEED.

ABLE TO GET TO WHERE THEY NEED  
TO BE AS WELL.  TO BE AS WELL.                  
IT'S COSTING OUR FARMERS, AND.  IT'S COSTING OUR FARMERS, AND  
IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE, AND THEN OF.

IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE, AND THEN OF
COURSE THERE WAS A PROPANE.  COURSE THERE WAS A PROPANE      
ISSUE, AND PEOPLE NOT BEING ABLE.  ISSUE, AND PEOPLE NOT BEING ABLE
TO GET PROPANE, AND REALLY IT'S.  TO GET PROPANE, AND REALLY IT'S
LONG OVERDUE, AND I'M HOPING.

LONG OVERDUE, AND I'M HOPING    
THAT THE GOVERNOR WILL ENCOURAGE.  THAT THE GOVERNOR WILL ENCOURAGE
A SPEEDY RESOLUTION ON THIS AND.  A SPEEDY RESOLUTION ON THIS AND
THEY REALLY NEED TO GET THIS.  THEY REALLY NEED TO GET THIS    
PIPELINE.

PIPELINE.                      
THEY NEEDED IT YESTERDAY.  THEY NEEDED IT YESTERDAY.      
>> ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON THAT.

>> ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON THAT.  
>> THE PIPELINE IS GOING THROUGH.  >> THE PIPELINE IS GOING THROUGH
SENSITIVE ENVIRONMENTAL AREAS,  SENSITIVE ENVIRONMENTAL AREAS,  
AND MY FAMILY OWNS A SMALL TREE.  AND MY FAMILY OWNS A SMALL TREE
FARM NEAR PARK RAPIDS, AND IT.

FARM NEAR PARK RAPIDS, AND IT  
GOES THROUGH THE COUNTRY I KNOW.  GOES THROUGH THE COUNTRY I KNOW
PRETTY WELL, SPEND A LOT OF TIME.  PRETTY WELL, SPEND A LOT OF TIME
AT.  AT.

                           
IT'S NOT AN AREA WHERE YOU PUT.  IT'S NOT AN AREA WHERE YOU PUT  
THE PIPELINE IN THE GROUND AND.  THE PIPELINE IN THE GROUND AND  
THERE ARE NOT OTHER POSSIBLE.  THERE ARE NOT OTHER POSSIBLE    
RAMIFICATIONS, AND THE PROCESS.

RAMIFICATIONS, AND THE PROCESS  
NEEDS TO WORK ITSELF THROUGH,  NEEDS TO WORK ITSELF THROUGH,  
AND IT IS A DELIBERATIVE.  AND IT IS A DELIBERATIVE        
PROCESS, AND IT TAKES TIME, AND.  PROCESS, AND IT TAKES TIME, AND
I TRUST THOSE PROCESSES, AND I.  I TRUST THOSE PROCESSES, AND I  
THINK THE STATE OF MINNESOTA HAS.

THINK THE STATE OF MINNESOTA HAS
A LONG HISTORY OF TAKING CARE OF.  A LONG HISTORY OF TAKING CARE OF
THESE SORTS OF ISSUES, AND I.  THESE SORTS OF ISSUES, AND I    
TRUST THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING.  TRUST THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING
WITH IT AND IT WILL RECEIVE A.

WITH IT AND IT WILL RECEIVE A  
FULL HEARING.  FULL HEARING.                  
IT WOULDN'T BE 300 UNIT TRAINS,  IT WOULDN'T BE 300 UNIT TRAINS,
THAT'S A LOT OF RAILCARS, BUT.  THAT'S A LOT OF RAILCARS, BUT  
HOPEFULLY WHATEVER PIPELINE --  HOPEFULLY WHATEVER PIPELINE --  
THE PINE LINE DOES HOLD THE.

THE PINE LINE DOES HOLD THE    
POTENTIAL TO REDUCE TRAINS, AND.  POTENTIAL TO REDUCE TRAINS, AND
WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THEY ARE.  WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THEY ARE    
GOING TO DUMP THROUGH.  GOING TO DUMP THROUGH.

       
WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME EXAMINING.  WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME EXAMINING
THE RAMIFICATIONS OF THE TRAINS.  THE RAMIFICATIONS OF THE TRAINS
THAT ARE COMING THROUGH,  THAT ARE COMING THROUGH,        
ESPECIALLY ON THE MAIN LINE AND.  ESPECIALLY ON THE MAIN LINE AND
BNSF.

BNSF.                          
I THINK A LOT OF OUR COMMUNITIES.  I THINK A LOT OF OUR COMMUNITIES
ARE AT RISK, AND WE NEED TO BE.  ARE AT RISK, AND WE NEED TO BE  
VIGILANT MAKING SURE ALL STEPS.

VIGILANT MAKING SURE ALL STEPS  
ARE BEING TAKEN TO MAKE SURE WE.  ARE BEING TAKEN TO MAKE SURE WE
CAN SECURE THEIR SAFETY.  CAN SECURE THEIR SAFETY.        
LIKEWISE WITH THE PIPELINE,  LIKEWISE WITH THE PIPELINE,    
THERE CAN BE SAFETY ISSUES WITH.

THERE CAN BE SAFETY ISSUES WITH
THE PIPELINE, AND THESE AREN'T.  THE PIPELINE, AND THESE AREN'T  
TO BE TAKEN LIGHTLY.  TO BE TAKEN LIGHTLY.            
BE DELIBERATE, THOROUGH AND MAKE.

BE DELIBERATE, THOROUGH AND MAKE
THE APPROPRIATE DECISION.  THE APPROPRIATE DECISION.      
LET'S MAKE SURE WE DO THIS WELL,  LET'S MAKE SURE WE DO THIS WELL,
TOO.  TOO.

                         
AND WE HAVE BEEN TAKING A CLOSE.  AND WE HAVE BEEN TAKING A CLOSE
LOOK AT THE REAL CAPABILITIES,  LOOK AT THE REAL CAPABILITIES,  
AND WE HAVE A DELAY THERE, AND.  AND WE HAVE A DELAY THERE, AND  
WE KNOW WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO.  WE KNOW WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO
DO SOMETHING IN TERMS OF.

DO SOMETHING IN TERMS OF        
ADDRESSING THE EXPANSION OF.  ADDRESSING THE EXPANSION OF    
RAIL, IF THAT IS AN OPPORTUNITY,  RAIL, IF THAT IS AN OPPORTUNITY,
BUT EITHER OR, BOTH OPTIONS.  BUT EITHER OR, BOTH OPTIONS    
TO -- THEY CERTAINLY BOTH HAVE.  TO -- THEY CERTAINLY BOTH HAVE  
RISKS, AND WE WANT TO LOOK AT.

RISKS, AND WE WANT TO LOOK AT  
THAT SAFETY STANDPOINT, AND WE.  THAT SAFETY STANDPOINT, AND WE  
HAVE HAD HEARINGS AND BILLS, AND.  HAVE HAD HEARINGS AND BILLS, AND
WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK.  WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK
ON THAT AND COME UP WITH.

ON THAT AND COME UP WITH        
SOMETHING WE CAN ALL SUPPORT.  SOMETHING WE CAN ALL SUPPORT.  
>> ANY THOUGHTS?  >> ANY THOUGHTS?                
>> VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE.  >> VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE    
SAFETY SIDE OF IT.

SAFETY SIDE OF IT.              
THROUGH MY DISTRICT I REPRESENT.  THROUGH MY DISTRICT I REPRESENT
WE HAVE A RAILROAD TRACK THAT.  WE HAVE A RAILROAD TRACK THAT  
RUNS THROUGH THE DISTRICT, AND A.

RUNS THROUGH THE DISTRICT, AND A
LOT OF MY CONSTITUENTS ARE.  LOT OF MY CONSTITUENTS ARE      
CONCERNED ABOUT THE RAILCARS AND.  CONCERNED ABOUT THE RAILCARS AND
WHAT THEY ARE RECALLING AND WHAT.  WHAT THEY ARE RECALLING AND WHAT
IT MEANS FOR THEIR SAFETY.

IT MEANS FOR THEIR SAFETY      
THROUGH THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS.  THROUGH THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS.  
>> STAY TUNED, I GUESS, RIGHT?  >> STAY TUNED, I GUESS, RIGHT?  
>> VIEWER FROM BECKER WANTS TO.  >> VIEWER FROM BECKER WANTS TO  
TALK ABOUT -- WE TALK GENERALLY.

TALK ABOUT -- WE TALK GENERALLY
ABOUT TRANSPORTATION HERE, AND.  ABOUT TRANSPORTATION HERE, AND  
BECKER WANTS TO KNOW ABOUT.  BECKER WANTS TO KNOW ABOUT      
RAISING THE GAS TAXES WHEN THE.  RAISING THE GAS TAXES WHEN THE  
PRICES ARE LOW.

PRICES ARE LOW.                
WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN THE GAS.  WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN THE GAS    
PRICES ARE HIGH?  PRICES ARE HIGH?                
WE HAVE OTHERS CONCERNED ABOUT.  WE HAVE OTHERS CONCERNED ABOUT  
BRIDGES AND ROADS.

BRIDGES AND ROADS.              
LET'S START WITH YOU,  LET'S START WITH YOU,          
REPRESENTATIVE, WHAT'S YOUR.  REPRESENTATIVE, WHAT'S YOUR    
THOUGHTS ON THE TRANSPORTATION?  THOUGHTS ON THE TRANSPORTATION?
WHERE DO YOU THINK WE MIGHT WIND.  WHERE DO YOU THINK WE MIGHT WIND
UP WHEN ALL THE DUST SETTLES.

UP WHEN ALL THE DUST SETTLES.  
>> MINNESOTA NEEDS A LONG-TERM.  >> MINNESOTA NEEDS A LONG-TERM  
COMPREHENSIVE SOLUTION TO THE.  COMPREHENSIVE SOLUTION TO THE  
TRANSPORTATION CHALLENGE, AND.

TRANSPORTATION CHALLENGE, AND  
WHERE I LIVE PEOPLE ARE READY.  WHERE I LIVE PEOPLE ARE READY  
FOR THIS, AND I THINK THEY.  FOR THIS, AND I THINK THEY      
RECOGNIZE IT.  RECOGNIZE IT.

                 
HIGHWAY 14 GOES THROUGH MY.  HIGHWAY 14 GOES THROUGH MY      
DISTRICT, AND WE MADE PROGRESS.  DISTRICT, AND WE MADE PROGRESS  
ON IT, AND WE OCCURRED FUNDING.  ON IT, AND WE OCCURRED FUNDING  
FOR THE LAST SESSION, AND.

FOR THE LAST SESSION, AND      
$300 MILLION TOWARD THE.  $300 MILLION TOWARD THE        
CORRIDORS OF COMMERCE, AND IT.  CORRIDORS OF COMMERCE, AND IT  
WILL BE EXTENDING FROM NORTH.  WILL BE EXTENDING FROM NORTH    
MANKATO.

MANKATO.                        
THAT'S A STRETCH OF ROAD THAT'S.  THAT'S A STRETCH OF ROAD THAT'S
NOT ONLY ABOUT CARRYING GOODS,  NOT ONLY ABOUT CARRYING GOODS,  
BUT ALSO A STRETCH OF ROAD.  BUT ALSO A STRETCH OF ROAD      
BECAUSE WE HAVE SERIOUS.

BECAUSE WE HAVE SERIOUS        
FATALITIES, AND IT'S TIME TO GET.  FATALITIES, AND IT'S TIME TO GET
THAT ROAD DONE.  THAT ROAD DONE.                
WE HAVE BEEN WAITING 50, 60  WE HAVE BEEN WAITING 50, 60    
YEARS TO GET IT TO ROCHESTER.

YEARS TO GET IT TO ROCHESTER.  
THIS IS THE TIME TO DO IT.  THIS IS THE TIME TO DO IT.      
I BELIEVE MINNESOTA HAS HAD A.

I BELIEVE MINNESOTA HAS HAD A  
THOROUGH DISCUSSION, AND I THINK.  THOROUGH DISCUSSION, AND I THINK
MINNESOTA BELIEVES WE NEED TO.  MINNESOTA BELIEVES WE NEED TO  
IMPROVE OUR TRANSPORTATION.  IMPROVE OUR TRANSPORTATION.

   
TRAFFIC ON THE RAIL, TRAFFIC ON.  TRAFFIC ON THE RAIL, TRAFFIC ON
THE FORK, AND TRAFFIC ON THE.  THE FORK, AND TRAFFIC ON THE    
RIVERS, AND CERTAINLY A LOT OF.  RIVERS, AND CERTAINLY A LOT OF  
TRAFFIC ON OUR ROADS THAT NEEDS.

TRAFFIC ON OUR ROADS THAT NEEDS
TO BE ADDRESSED.  TO BE ADDRESSED.                
I THINK IT NEEDS LONG-TERM.  I THINK IT NEEDS LONG-TERM      
DEDICATED FUNDING, AND.

DEDICATED FUNDING, AND          
SUFFICIENT FUNDING SO WE KNOW WE.  SUFFICIENT FUNDING SO WE KNOW WE
CAN DO IT.  CAN DO IT.                      
I'M CONCERNED WE ARE GOING TO.

I'M CONCERNED WE ARE GOING TO  
TAKE THE EASY WAY OUT AND FALL.  TAKE THE EASY WAY OUT AND FALL  
BACK TO A SHORT TERM SOLUTION.  BACK TO A SHORT TERM SOLUTION  
THAT WILL NOT PROVIDE THE.  THAT WILL NOT PROVIDE THE      
FUNDING WE NEED.

FUNDING WE NEED.                
I THINK SOME SORT OF A GAS TAX.  I THINK SOME SORT OF A GAS TAX  
IS WHERE IT GOES.  IS WHERE IT GOES.

             
WE UNDERSTAND THE GAS TAX.  WE UNDERSTAND THE GAS TAX.      
IT'S DEDICATED TO ROADS, AND I.  IT'S DEDICATED TO ROADS, AND I  
THINK THERE'S A LOT OF SUPPORT.

THINK THERE'S A LOT OF SUPPORT  
OUT THERE FOR THAT.  OUT THERE FOR THAT.            
I THINK IT'S TIME FOR US AS A.  I THINK IT'S TIME FOR US AS A  
LEGISLATURE TO BE MATURE ABOUT.

LEGISLATURE TO BE MATURE ABOUT  
IT AND MAKE THAT STEP AND.  IT AND MAKE THAT STEP AND      
INVESTMENT.  INVESTMENT.                    
>> REPRESENTATIVE ANDERSON?  >> REPRESENTATIVE ANDERSON?    
>> FOR THE AVERAGE FAMILY THAT.

>> FOR THE AVERAGE FAMILY THAT  
HAS FOUR DRIVERS IN THEIR.  HAS FOUR DRIVERS IN THEIR      
HOUSEHOLD THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT.  HOUSEHOLD THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT
1,200-DOLLAR INCREASE THEY WILL.  1,200-DOLLAR INCREASE THEY WILL
BE PAYING BECAUSE OF THE GAS TAX.

BE PAYING BECAUSE OF THE GAS TAX
GOVERNOR DAYTON IS PROPOSING AND.  GOVERNOR DAYTON IS PROPOSING AND
AFTER INCREASING THEIR TAXES BY.  AFTER INCREASING THEIR TAXES BY
2.1 MILLION OVER THE LAST TWO.  2.1 MILLION OVER THE LAST TWO  
YEARS.

YEARS.                          
I READ AN E-MAIL THAT SAID YOU.  I READ AN E-MAIL THAT SAID YOU  
ARE BREAKING ME.  ARE BREAKING ME.

             
THIS IS ENOUGH.  THIS IS ENOUGH.                
I CAN'T DO THIS ANYMORE.  I CAN'T DO THIS ANYMORE.

     
STOP WITH THE TAXES AND IN.  STOP WITH THE TAXES AND IN      
PARTICULAR THE GAS TAX.  PARTICULAR THE GAS TAX.        
THE STATE AND THE FEDERAL, 28  THE STATE AND THE FEDERAL, 28  
CENTS, AND AT A MINIMUM WHAT.

CENTS, AND AT A MINIMUM WHAT    
HE'S PROPOSING IS 16 CENTS, AND.  HE'S PROPOSING IS 16 CENTS, AND
THAT'S AT THE FLOOR OF GAS BEING.  THAT'S AT THE FLOOR OF GAS BEING
2.50, AND WE EXPERIENCED WHEN.  2.50, AND WE EXPERIENCED WHEN  
GAS WAS AROUND A DOLLAR.

GAS WAS AROUND A DOLLAR        
WHATEVER.  WHATEVER.                      
>> $1.90.  >> $1.90.

                     
>> IT WOULDN'T BE TAXED THAT.  >> IT WOULDN'T BE TAXED THAT    
THAT LEFT.  THAT LEFT.                      
ONCE IT GOES UP TO $4, THEY WILL.

ONCE IT GOES UP TO $4, THEY WILL
BE PAYING EVEN MORE IN GAS TAX.  BE PAYING EVEN MORE IN GAS TAX.
THE PEOPLE HAVE SAID I PAID IN A.  THE PEOPLE HAVE SAID I PAID IN A
LOT OF MONEY, AND I'M NOT SEEING.

LOT OF MONEY, AND I'M NOT SEEING
THE RESULTS.  THE RESULTS.                    
TRESULTS.  TRESULTS.

                     
WHEN YOU ARE SPENDING.  WHEN YOU ARE SPENDING          
$137 MILLION IN THE SENATE.  $137 MILLION IN THE SENATE      
OFFICE BUILDING, PEOPLE SAY.  OFFICE BUILDING, PEOPLE SAY    
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.              
YOU NEED TO SPEND YOUR MONEY.  YOU NEED TO SPEND YOUR MONEY    
WHERE THE PRIORITIES ARE, AND.  WHERE THE PRIORITIES ARE, AND  
THAT'S ROADS AND BRIDGE.

THAT'S ROADS AND BRIDGE.        
WE HAVE A LOT OF ROOM FOR.  WE HAVE A LOT OF ROOM FOR      
IMPROVEMENT.  IMPROVEMENT.

                 
>> I COME AT IT FROM A DIFFERENT.  >> I COME AT IT FROM A DIFFERENT
ANGLE.  ANGLE.                          
YOU CAN PUT THE NUMBER AROUND,  YOU CAN PUT THE NUMBER AROUND,  
AND THEY DON'T MEAN ANYTHING.

AND THEY DON'T MEAN ANYTHING    
UNTIL WE KNOW WHAT WE NEED.  UNTIL WE KNOW WHAT WE NEED.    
WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FUNDS FOR.  WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FUNDS FOR  
BIPARTISAN SUPPORT.

BIPARTISAN SUPPORT.            
WE HAD REPORTS THAT LOOKED AT.  WE HAD REPORTS THAT LOOKED AT  
THIS FOR A LONG TIME WITH.  THIS FOR A LONG TIME WITH      
EXPERTS AND INDUSTRY LEADERS AND.

EXPERTS AND INDUSTRY LEADERS AND
WE REALIZED WE DID NEED EXTRA.  WE REALIZED WE DID NEED EXTRA  
ADDITIONAL INVESTMENT THAT.  ADDITIONAL INVESTMENT THAT      
KEEPING THE LIGHTS ON ISN'T.  KEEPING THE LIGHTS ON ISN'T    
ENOUGH TO KEEP MINNESOTA IN THE.

ENOUGH TO KEEP MINNESOTA IN THE
RIGHT DIRECTION AS FAR AS.  RIGHT DIRECTION AS FAR AS      
ECONOMIC VISIBILITY AND KEEP.  ECONOMIC VISIBILITY AND KEEP    
THEM HERE, PARTICULARLY ME.  THEM HERE, PARTICULARLY ME      
MILLENNIALS.

MILLENNIALS.                    
I THINK THE SENATE HAS A REALLY.  I THINK THE SENATE HAS A REALLY
STRONG PACKAGE, AND IT'S A FIRST.  STRONG PACKAGE, AND IT'S A FIRST
OPTION IN TERMS OF STARTING.

OPTION IN TERMS OF STARTING    
POINT OF DUGS, AND IT'S NOT.  POINT OF DUGS, AND IT'S NOT    
GOING TO SEE AT THE END OF THE.  GOING TO SEE AT THE END OF THE  
DAY.  DAY.

                         
IT'S TRYING TO ADDRESS THE.  IT'S TRYING TO ADDRESS THE      
ENTIRE NEEDS OF THE STATE, AND.  ENTIRE NEEDS OF THE STATE, AND  
IN PORTS, AND AIRPORTS, AND IT.  IN PORTS, AND AIRPORTS, AND IT  
TACKLES ALL OF THE.

TACKLES ALL OF THE              
INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENTS WHEN.  INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENTS WHEN
IT COMES TO TRANSPORTATION FOR.  IT COMES TO TRANSPORTATION FOR  
OUR STATE, AND IT'S LONG.  OUR STATE, AND IT'S LONG        
OVERDUE, AND I'M LOOKING AGAIN.

OVERDUE, AND I'M LOOKING AGAIN  
AS SEEING THE REPRESENTATIVE IN.  AS SEEING THE REPRESENTATIVE IN
TERMS OF HAVING A 10-YEAR PLAN.  TERMS OF HAVING A 10-YEAR PLAN.
I'M NOT INTERESTED IN A.

I'M NOT INTERESTED IN A        
SHORT-TERM SOLUTION OR IF I CAN.  SHORT-TERM SOLUTION OR IF I CAN
TIRKS SOLUTIONS OF USING GEO.  TIRKS SOLUTIONS OF USING GEO    
BONDS, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY.  BONDS, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY
THERE TO REALLY FILL THE GAP AND.

THERE TO REALLY FILL THE GAP AND
NEED WE KNOW EXISTS IN THE.  NEED WE KNOW EXISTS IN THE      
TRANSPORTATION AND.  TRANSPORTATION AND              
INFRASTRUCTURE, AND I'M LOOKING.  INFRASTRUCTURE, AND I'M LOOKING
FOR A LONG-TERM PLAN, AND I WANT.

FOR A LONG-TERM PLAN, AND I WANT
SOMETHING TO BE COMPREHENSIVE TO.  SOMETHING TO BE COMPREHENSIVE TO
TACKLE THE ROADS, BRIDGES, BIKE,  TACKLE THE ROADS, BRIDGES, BIKE,
PEDESTRIAN, AND IT'S GOING TO.  PEDESTRIAN, AND IT'S GOING TO  
HAVE TO, YOU KNOW THE MONEY IS.  HAVE TO, YOU KNOW THE MONEY IS  
GOING TO HAVE TO COME FROM.

GOING TO HAVE TO COME FROM      
SOMEWHERE, AND AS LONG AS WE.  SOMEWHERE, AND AS LONG AS WE    
MAKE THE ARGUMENT YOU ARE GOING.  MAKE THE ARGUMENT YOU ARE GOING
TO GET VALUE FOR YOUR TAX.  TO GET VALUE FOR YOUR TAX      
DOLLARS, I THINK PEOPLE.

DOLLARS, I THINK PEOPLE        
UNDERSTAND THAT.  UNDERSTAND THAT.                
I HAVE DOZENS OF E-MAILS EVERY.  I HAVE DOZENS OF E-MAILS EVERY  
WEEK ON TRANSPORTATION, AND I'M.

WEEK ON TRANSPORTATION, AND I'M
TAKING THE TIME TO EDUCATE THE.  TAKING THE TIME TO EDUCATE THE  
PUBLIC, WHERE THE TAX DOLLARS.  PUBLIC, WHERE THE TAX DOLLARS  
COME FROM, WHERE ARE THEY GOING,  COME FROM, WHERE ARE THEY GOING,
AND I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO.  AND I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO      
PROVIDE THEM SO WE HAVE FURTHER.

PROVIDE THEM SO WE HAVE FURTHER
DISCUSSION ABOUT THE NEEDS OF.  DISCUSSION ABOUT THE NEEDS OF  
OUR STATE.  OUR STATE.                      
WE CAN COME TO A SOLUTION THAT.

WE CAN COME TO A SOLUTION THAT  
WE CAN ALL AGREE ON.  WE CAN ALL AGREE ON.            
>> WELL, THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT.  >> WELL, THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT  
TRANSPORTATION IS ONE OF THE KEY.

TRANSPORTATION IS ONE OF THE KEY
ISSUES THAT IS THE.  ISSUES THAT IS THE              
RESPONSIBILITY OF MINNESOTA.  RESPONSIBILITY OF MINNESOTA    
STATE GOVERNMENT, AND ROADS AND.  STATE GOVERNMENT, AND ROADS AND
BRIDGES PARTICULARLY, AND WE.

BRIDGES PARTICULARLY, AND WE    
ALSO KNOW COMMERCE RIDES ON.  ALSO KNOW COMMERCE RIDES ON    
TRANSPORTATION, AND PEOPLE RIDE.  TRANSPORTATION, AND PEOPLE RIDE
ON TRANSPORTATION TO GET TO.  ON TRANSPORTATION TO GET TO    
THOSE JOBS OR GET TO THE.

THOSE JOBS OR GET TO THE        
SCHOOLING, AND SO TRANSPORTATION.  SCHOOLING, AND SO TRANSPORTATION
AND A RELIABLE SYSTEM IS.  AND A RELIABLE SYSTEM IS        
ABSOLUTELY KEY.  ABSOLUTELY KEY.

               
BUT I THINK IN $2 MILLION TAX.  BUT I THINK IN $2 MILLION TAX  
HIKE IN THE LAST BUDGET SESSION,  HIKE IN THE LAST BUDGET SESSION,
AND ONE  OF THE BIGGEST TAX HIKS.  AND ONE  OF THE BIGGEST TAX HIKS
IN THE HISTORY OF OUR STATE, ONE.  IN THE HISTORY OF OUR STATE, ONE
WOULD HAVE HOPED THAT PRIORITY.

WOULD HAVE HOPED THAT PRIORITY  
WOULD HAVE PRIORITIZED AND I.  WOULD HAVE PRIORITIZED AND I    
WANT TO SAY I REALLY LIKE WHAT.  WANT TO SAY I REALLY LIKE WHAT  
THE GOVERNOR SAID WHEN HE WAS IN.  THE GOVERNOR SAID WHEN HE WAS IN
ROCHESTER FOR HIS FIRST DEBATE.

ROCHESTER FOR HIS FIRST DEBATE  
DURING THE CAMPAIGN SEASON.  DURING THE CAMPAIGN SEASON.    
WHEN ASKED ABOUT THE GAS TAX AT.  WHEN ASKED ABOUT THE GAS TAX AT
THAT POINT, HE SAID I BELIEVE.

THAT POINT, HE SAID I BELIEVE  
MIMINNESOTANS HAVE BEEN TAXED.  MIMINNESOTANS HAVE BEEN TAXED  
ENOUGH.  ENOUGH.                        
I'M NOT INTERESTED IN INCREASING.

I'M NOT INTERESTED IN INCREASING
THE GAS TAX.  THE GAS TAX.                    
LET'S TALK ABOUT THE GOVERNOR'S.  LET'S TALK ABOUT THE GOVERNOR'S
GAS TAX PROPOSAL.

GAS TAX PROPOSAL.              
IT'S PROBLEMATIC, AND THAT'S.  IT'S PROBLEMATIC, AND THAT'S    
BECAUSE IT'S LIKE A SALES TAX ON.  BECAUSE IT'S LIKE A SALES TAX ON
A GALLON OF GAS, AND IT GOES UP.

A GALLON OF GAS, AND IT GOES UP
AS THE PRICE GOES UP.  AS THE PRICE GOES UP.          
THAT PERCENTAGE AMOUNT INCREASES.  THAT PERCENTAGE AMOUNT INCREASES
DRAMATICALLY, AND CONCONSUMERS.

DRAMATICALLY, AND CONCONSUMERS  
WOULD GET A DOUBLE HIT IN THEIR.  WOULD GET A DOUBLE HIT IN THEIR
POCKETBOOK, AND THEY WOULD GET.  POCKETBOOK, AND THEY WOULD GET  
THE HIT FROM HIGHER PER GALLON.  THE HIT FROM HIGHER PER GALLON  
GAS PRICES PLUS THE INCREASE.

GAS PRICES PLUS THE INCREASE    
GAS, PERCENTAGE WOULD BE AN.  GAS, PERCENTAGE WOULD BE AN    
INCREASED AMOUNT.  INCREASED AMOUNT.              
THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL WITH THE.

THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL WITH THE
STATE AND FEDERAL TAX WOULD BE.  STATE AND FEDERAL TAX WOULD BE  
60 CENTS A GALLON ON TAX, 60  60 CENTS A GALLON ON TAX, 60    
CENTS A GALLON JUST IN TAX.  CENTS A GALLON JUST IN TAX.    
I THINK IT'S PROBLEMATIC ON THE.

I THINK IT'S PROBLEMATIC ON THE
FACE OF THAT, BUT WE HAVE THE.  FACE OF THAT, BUT WE HAVE THE  
ENTIRE ISSUE THAT, ONE, GAS.  ENTIRE ISSUE THAT, ONE, GAS    
TAXES ARE ONE OF THE MOST.  TAXES ARE ONE OF THE MOST      
AGGRESSIVE TYPES OF GASES, AND.

AGGRESSIVE TYPES OF GASES, AND  
THEY HIT THE POOREST THE.  THEY HIT THE POOREST THE        
HARDEST, AND THEY OFTEN DRIVE.  HARDEST, AND THEY OFTEN DRIVE  
THE LESS EFFICIENT VEHICLES, AND.  THE LESS EFFICIENT VEHICLES, AND
IT'S A GREATER PERCENT OF THEIR.

IT'S A GREATER PERCENT OF THEIR
INCOME, AND LASTLY, IF WE ARE.  INCOME, AND LASTLY, IF WE ARE  
TALKING ABOUT A PERMANENT.  TALKING ABOUT A PERMANENT      
SOLUTION, BELIEVE ME THE GAS TAX.  SOLUTION, BELIEVE ME THE GAS TAX
ISN'T IT.

ISN'T IT.                      
IT'S A DECLINING SOURCE OF.  IT'S A DECLINING SOURCE OF      
REVENUE.  REVENUE.

                     
THE GOVERNOR'S GAS TAX IS NOT.  THE GOVERNOR'S GAS TAX IS NOT  
IT.  IT.                            
THERE WILL BE OTHER PROPOSALS,  THERE WILL BE OTHER PROPOSALS,  
AND I THINK WE WILL DISCUSS.

AND I THINK WE WILL DISCUSS    
THOSE, AND I THINK AT THE END OF.  THOSE, AND I THINK AT THE END OF
THE DAY, WE WILL NOT BE SEEING.  THE DAY, WE WILL NOT BE SEEING  
THE GOVERNOR'S GAS TAX PROPOSAL.  THE GOVERNOR'S GAS TAX PROPOSAL.
>> I WANT CORRECT SOMETHING.

>> I WANT CORRECT SOMETHING.    
WE HEAR A LOT OF NUMBERS, AND I.  WE HEAR A LOT OF NUMBERS, AND I
HAD A GENTLEMAN IN MY OFFICE.  HAD A GENTLEMAN IN MY OFFICE    
TODAY, CONSTITUENT OF MINE, AND.

TODAY, CONSTITUENT OF MINE, AND
HE HAD DONE CALCULATING AND HE.  HE HAD DONE CALCULATING AND HE  
SAID IF YOU DRIVE 12,000 MILES A.  SAID IF YOU DRIVE 12,000 MILES A
YEAR, WHICH IS WHAT A LOT OF.  YEAR, WHICH IS WHAT A LOT OF    
PEOPLE WOULD DRIVE.

PEOPLE WOULD DRIVE.            
GET 30 MILES TO THE GALLON, 66  GET 30 MILES TO THE GALLON, 66  
BUCKS A YEAR.  BUCKS A YEAR.                  
THAT'S A BUCK AND A QUARTER A.

THAT'S A BUCK AND A QUARTER A  
WEEK, LESS THAN A CUP OF COFFEE.  WEEK, LESS THAN A CUP OF COFFEE.
YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR.  YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR.      
I THINK WE KNOW IF WE ARE GOING.

I THINK WE KNOW IF WE ARE GOING
TO INVEST IN OUR ROADS AND MAKE.  TO INVEST IN OUR ROADS AND MAKE
THE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM TO.  THE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM TO    
MOVE OUR ECONOMY FORWARD, WE.  MOVE OUR ECONOMY FORWARD, WE    
NEED TO MAKE AN INVESTMENT, AND.

NEED TO MAKE AN INVESTMENT, AND
I THINK THIS IS THE YEAR TO DO.  I THINK THIS IS THE YEAR TO DO  
IT.  IT.                            
THE ECONOMY IS HEALTHY AND PRICE.

THE ECONOMY IS HEALTHY AND PRICE
OF GAS IS LOW, AND I THINK WE.  OF GAS IS LOW, AND I THINK WE  
SHOULD GO AFTER IT.  SHOULD GO AFTER IT.            
I HOPE WE CAN DO IT.

I HOPE WE CAN DO IT.            
>> WE SHOULD HAVE AN HONEST.  >> WE SHOULD HAVE AN HONEST    
CONVERSATION WITH PEOPLE, WITH.  CONVERSATION WITH PEOPLE, WITH  
CONSTITUENTS, WHERE THE MONEY IS.

CONSTITUENTS, WHERE THE MONEY IS
COMING FROM, WHERE IT'S GOING,  COMING FROM, WHERE IT'S GOING,  
AND BEING TRANSPARENT, AND.  AND BEING TRANSPARENT, AND      
THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION OUT.  THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION OUT
THERE.  THERE.

                       
TRANSPORTATION WASN'T PARTISAN.  TRANSPORTATION WASN'T PARTISAN.
IT'S BECOME MORE AND MORE TOXIC.  IT'S BECOME MORE AND MORE TOXIC
IN THE RECENT YEARS, BUT IT USED.

IN THE RECENT YEARS, BUT IT USED
TO BE SOMETHING WE NEED TO.  TO BE SOMETHING WE NEED TO      
INVEST IN.  INVEST IN.                      
NOW WE ARE NOT ON THE SAME SIDE.

NOW WE ARE NOT ON THE SAME SIDE
OF THAT EQUATION, AND THINK WE.  OF THAT EQUATION, AND THINK WE  
NEED TO FIND A WAY WE CAN DO.  NEED TO FIND A WAY WE CAN DO    
THIS TOGETHER.  THIS TOGETHER.

               
I THINK AGAIN, DEMONSTRATE THE.  I THINK AGAIN, DEMONSTRATE THE  
VALUE, AND IT WAS TRANSPARENT.  VALUE, AND IT WAS TRANSPARENT  
WHERE IT'S COMING, WHERE IT'S.  WHERE IT'S COMING, WHERE IT'S  
GOING, AND PEOPLE WOULD HAVE A.

GOING, AND PEOPLE WOULD HAVE A  
DIFFERENT OPINION THAN RELYING.  DIFFERENT OPINION THAN RELYING  
ON THIS INFORMATION, AND I THINK.  ON THIS INFORMATION, AND I THINK
OUR JOB AS LEGISLATORS IS TO.  OUR JOB AS LEGISLATORS IS TO    
EDUCATE OUR CONSTITUENTS ON THE.

EDUCATE OUR CONSTITUENTS ON THE
FACTS, AND DIFFERENT NUMBERS,  FACTS, AND DIFFERENT NUMBERS,  
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S.  BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S
NOT THE PROPOSAL THAT'S GOING TO.  NOT THE PROPOSAL THAT'S GOING TO
PASS, IT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME,  PASS, IT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME,  
BUT LET'S HAVE AN HONEST.  BUT LET'S HAVE AN HONEST        
DISCUSSION ABOUT THE NUMBERS AS.

DISCUSSION ABOUT THE NUMBERS AS
WELL.  WELL.                          
>> WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT THIS.  >> WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT THIS
ISSUE.

ISSUE.                          
DON'T FEEL THEY ARE GETTING WHAT.  DON'T FEEL THEY ARE GETTING WHAT
THEY PAY FOR.  THEY PAY FOR.

                 
THIS IS A PRIME EXAMPLE.  THIS IS A PRIME EXAMPLE.        
THEY DON'T EXPECT THEIR TAX.  THEY DON'T EXPECT THEIR TAX    
DOLLARS ARE GOING TO BE USED FOR.

DOLLARS ARE GOING TO BE USED FOR
COMPENSATION PACKAGES.  COMPENSATION PACKAGES.          
THEY ARE EXPECTING IT'S GOING TO.  THEY ARE EXPECTING IT'S GOING TO
GO INTO THE ROADS AND BRIDGES,  GO INTO THE ROADS AND BRIDGES,  
AND EVENING WE ARE LOSING FAITH.

AND EVENING WE ARE LOSING FAITH
WITH THE PUBLIC WHEN WE DO THOSE.  WITH THE PUBLIC WHEN WE DO THOSE
ACTIONS AND NOT FOCUS ON THE.  ACTIONS AND NOT FOCUS ON THE    
PRIORITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE OF.  PRIORITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE OF
THE STATE.

THE STATE.                      
>> JUST TO LET OUR VIEWERS.  >> JUST TO LET OUR VIEWERS      
UNDERSTAND, I WANT TO TAKE A RUN.  UNDERSTAND, I WANT TO TAKE A RUN
HERE AT MAKING SURE WE.

HERE AT MAKING SURE WE          
ADEQUATELY EXPLAIN THAT THE.  ADEQUATELY EXPLAIN THAT THE    
GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL MAY LEAD.  GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL MAY LEAD    
INTO A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.  INTO A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.

   
BUT HIS PROPOSAL IS A WHOLESALE.  BUT HIS PROPOSAL IS A WHOLESALE
TAX, AND THAT'S SOMETHING A.  TAX, AND THAT'S SOMETHING A    
LITTLE DIFFERENT WHICH WE.  LITTLE DIFFERENT WHICH WE      
HAVEN'T SEEN BEFORE.

HAVEN'T SEEN BEFORE.            
THOSE NUMBERS MAY CHANGE,  THOSE NUMBERS MAY CHANGE,      
DEPENDING ON THE PRICE OF GAS.  DEPENDING ON THE PRICE OF GAS.  
>> 2.50 IS THE FLOOR.

>> 2.50 IS THE FLOOR.          
IF THE PRICE OF GAS IS A DOLLAR.  IF THE PRICE OF GAS IS A DOLLAR
90.  90.

                           
YOU WILL PAY THE WHOLESALE OF.  YOU WILL PAY THE WHOLESALE OF  
2.50.  2.50.                          
>> YOU SEEM TO KNOW ABOUT THE.

>> YOU SEEM TO KNOW ABOUT THE  
WHOLESALE TAX.  WHOLESALE TAX.                  
IT'S NOT LIKE THE CENTS PER.  IT'S NOT LIKE THE CENTS PER    
GALLON.

GALLON.                        
IT'S A PERCENT OF THE COST.  IT'S A PERCENT OF THE COST.    
6 1/2% OF THE COST.

6 1/2% OF THE COST.            
YOU CAN TELL 6 AND A HALF.  YOU CAN TELL 6 AND A HALF      
INSISTER OF $2.50 IS 16 CENTS.  INSISTER OF $2.50 IS 16 CENTS.


HOW MUCH IS IT GOING TO BE WHEN.  HOW MUCH IS IT GOING TO BE WHEN
GAS GOES UP TO $4 A GALLON.  GAS GOES UP TO $4 A GALLON.    
>> THE PERCENTAGE DOESN'T.

>> THE PERCENTAGE DOESN'T      
CHANGE.  CHANGE.                        
BUT WHAT YOU MEANT IS THE AMOUNT.  BUT WHAT YOU MEANT IS THE AMOUNT
CHANGES.

CHANGES.                        
>> 6 1/2% OF $2.50 IS 16 CENTS.  >> 6 1/2% OF $2.50 IS 16 CENTS.
6 1/2% OF $4 IS POLITICALLY.

6 1/2% OF $4 IS POLITICALLY    
MORE.  MORE.                          
>> VIEWER FROM BEMIDJI WANTS TO.  >> VIEWER FROM BEMIDJI WANTS TO
TALK ABOUT MNSCU AND THIS VIEWER.

TALK ABOUT MNSCU AND THIS VIEWER
IS CONCERNED ABOUT THERE'S AN.  IS CONCERNED ABOUT THERE'S AN  
ARGUMENT GOING ON BETWEEN THE.  ARGUMENT GOING ON BETWEEN THE  
CHANCELLOR AND FICA OVER.  CHANCELLOR AND FICA OVER        
CHARTING THE FUTURE PLANNING.

CHARTING THE FUTURE PLANNING    
PROCESS, AND MNSCU IS ASKING FOR.  PROCESS, AND MNSCU IS ASKING FOR
MONEY, AND THE GOVERNOR.  MONEY, AND THE GOVERNOR        
INDICATED THERE'S A PHRASE UNTIL.  INDICATED THERE'S A PHRASE UNTIL
IT'S RESOLVED.

IT'S RESOLVED.                  
WHAT'S THE LEGISLATURE PLANNING.  WHAT'S THE LEGISLATURE PLANNING
ON DOING?  ON DOING?                      
WHO WANTS TO TAKE A RUN AT THAT.  WHO WANTS TO TAKE A RUN AT THAT.
>> TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT.

>> TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT    
ABOUT THAT, WELL, CERTAINLY IN.  ABOUT THAT, WELL, CERTAINLY IN  
THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL, HIS.  THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL, HIS    
PROPOSAL WAS TO FUND THE.  PROPOSAL WAS TO FUND THE        
UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA, MOST.

UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA, MOST  
NOTABLY IN THAT $30 MILLION TO.  NOTABLY IN THAT $30 MILLION TO  
BRING THEIR RESEARCH BACK UP.  BRING THEIR RESEARCH BACK UP    
INTO A TOP TIER MED SCHOOL AND.  INTO A TOP TIER MED SCHOOL AND  
RESEARCH FACILITY.

RESEARCH FACILITY.              
THE GOVERNOR CHOSE TO PUT.  THE GOVERNOR CHOSE TO PUT      
UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA IN HIS.  UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA IN HIS  
BUDGET BUT DIDN'T PUT ANY MONEY.

BUDGET BUT DIDN'T PUT ANY MONEY
FROM MNSCU INTO HIS BUDGET.  FROM MNSCU INTO HIS BUDGET      
PROPOSAL.  PROPOSAL.                      
THERE IS ENOUGH MONEY ON THE.

THERE IS ENOUGH MONEY ON THE    
BOTTOM LINE FOR MNSCU.  BOTTOM LINE FOR MNSCU.          
IT'S KIND OF AN INTERESTING WAY.  IT'S KIND OF AN INTERESTING WAY
FOR THE GOVERNOR TO MAKE A.

FOR THE GOVERNOR TO MAKE A      
POINT.  POINT.                          
THE LARGER POINT, WHICH IS THE.  THE LARGER POINT, WHICH IS THE  
CHANGING PACE OF HIGHER.

CHANGING PACE OF HIGHER        
EDUCATION.  EDUCATION.                      
HIGHER EDUCATION HAS CHANGED.  HIGHER EDUCATION HAS CHANGED    
DRAMATICALLY WITH OUR DIGITAL.

DRAMATICALLY WITH OUR DIGITAL  
ECONOMY AND THE DIGITAL WORLD.  ECONOMY AND THE DIGITAL WORLD  
THAT WE LIVE IN TODAY.  THAT WE LIVE IN TODAY.          
YOU CAN'T HAVE A MODEL THAT IS A.

YOU CAN'T HAVE A MODEL THAT IS A
MODEL, AND HIGHER EDUCATION IS.  MODEL, AND HIGHER EDUCATION IS  
GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY.  GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY      
CHALLENGED AND HOW IS IT GOING.  CHALLENGED AND HOW IS IT GOING  
TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THAT?  TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THAT?    
HIGH QUALITY EDUCATION THAT OUR.

HIGH QUALITY EDUCATION THAT OUR
WORK FORCE DEPENDS UPON AND THE.  WORK FORCE DEPENDS UPON AND THE
ECONOMY DEPENDS ON AND DO IT IN.  ECONOMY DEPENDS ON AND DO IT IN
A WAY THAT'S SUSTAINABLE IN.  A WAY THAT'S SUSTAINABLE IN    
LIGHT OF THE FACT WE HAVE FREE.

LIGHT OF THE FACT WE HAVE FREE  
ONLINE EDUCATION BEING OFFERED.  ONLINE EDUCATION BEING OFFERED  
FROM UNIVERSITIES ALL ACROSS THE.  FROM UNIVERSITIES ALL ACROSS THE
NATION.  NATION.

                       
THEY ARE CALLED THE ONLINE OPEN.  THEY ARE CALLED THE ONLINE OPEN
SOURCES COURSES.  SOURCES COURSES.                
HARVARD, STANFORD, YOU SAKE YOUR.

HARVARD, STANFORD, YOU SAKE YOUR
CHOICE.  CHOICE.                        
YOU TAKE THE COURSES ONLINE FOR.  YOU TAKE THE COURSES ONLINE FOR
FREE.

FREE.                          
HIGHER EDUCATION DOES HAVE TO.  HIGHER EDUCATION DOES HAVE TO  
CHANGE.  CHANGE.

                       
THAT'S THE POINT OF THAT.  THAT'S THE POINT OF THAT.      
WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE MODEL OF.  WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE MODEL OF  
HIGHER EDUCATION, AND I DON'T.

HIGHER EDUCATION, AND I DON'T  
WANT WHAT ALL IS IN THE.  WANT WHAT ALL IS IN THE        
CHANCELLOR'S CHARTING THE.  CHANCELLOR'S CHARTING THE      
FUTURE, BUT IT IS TRUE.  FUTURE, BUT IT IS TRUE.

       
HIGHER EDUCATION HAS TO CHANGE.  HIGHER EDUCATION HAS TO CHANGE  
ITS MODEL TO BE SUSTAINABLE.  ITS MODEL TO BE SUSTAINABLE.    
I KNOW CHANGE IS HARD.

I KNOW CHANGE IS HARD.          
I KNOW DIFFERENCES ARE RESOLVED.  I KNOW DIFFERENCES ARE RESOLVED.
I THINK THI DON'T THINK THE GOVR.  I THINK THI DON'T THINK THE GOVR
HOLDING FUNDS IS THE BEST WAY TO.

HOLDING FUNDS IS THE BEST WAY TO
DO IT.  DO IT.                          
BUT I THINK WE WILL FIND WAYS.  BUT I THINK WE WILL FIND WAYS  
WHERE MNSCU IS FUNDED BEFORE THE.

WHERE MNSCU IS FUNDED BEFORE THE
SESSION ENDS.  SESSION ENDS.                  
>> I SIT ON THE COMMITTEE,  >> I SIT ON THE COMMITTEE,      
ALTHOUGH I'M BRAND-NEW TO IT.  ALTHOUGH I'M BRAND-NEW TO IT.

 
MNSCU IS A BIG PART OF OUR.  MNSCU IS A BIG PART OF OUR      
HIGHER EDUCATION SYSTEM.  HIGHER EDUCATION SYSTEM.        
A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF IT AND.

A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF IT AND
TO SENATOR NELSON'S POINT, IT'S.  TO SENATOR NELSON'S POINT, IT'S
GOING TO BE A VERY SIGNIFICANT.  GOING TO BE A VERY SIGNIFICANT  
PART OF THE SOLUTION GETTING OUR.  PART OF THE SOLUTION GETTING OUR
WORK FORCE READY FOR THE JOBS WE.

WORK FORCE READY FOR THE JOBS WE
NEED AND SKILL SETS WE KNOW AS.  NEED AND SKILL SETS WE KNOW AS  
OF TODAY.  OF TODAY.                      
MNSCU IS CRITICAL.

MNSCU IS CRITICAL.              
IT'S GREAT TO HAVE A LEADER WITH.  IT'S GREAT TO HAVE A LEADER WITH
A VISION.  A VISION.

                     
CHANGE IS HARD, AND I'M HOPEFUL.  CHANGE IS HARD, AND I'M HOPEFUL
THIS WILL BE RESOLVED, AND ANY.  THIS WILL BE RESOLVED, AND ANY  
CONFLICTS WILL GET SETTLED.  CONFLICTS WILL GET SETTLED.

   
I ADMIRE SOMEONE WHO HAS A BOLD.  I ADMIRE SOMEONE WHO HAS A BOLD
VISION AND IS TRYING TO.  VISION AND IS TRYING TO        
IMPLEMENT CHANGE.  IMPLEMENT CHANGE.

             
I'M HOPEFUL THEY WILL FIND A.  I'M HOPEFUL THEY WILL FIND A    
RESOLUTION, AND WE WILL CONTINUE.  RESOLUTION, AND WE WILL CONTINUE
TO HAVE MACHIN MNSCU AS A PART E.  TO HAVE MACHIN MNSCU AS A PART E
HIGHER EDUCATION SYSTEM.

HIGHER EDUCATION SYSTEM.        
>> I WORK AT A UNIVERSITY THAT'S.  >> I WORK AT A UNIVERSITY THAT'S
BEEN SUCCESSFUL AT SHARED.  BEEN SUCCESSFUL AT SHARED      
GOVERNANCE, AND IT WORKS IN.

GOVERNANCE, AND IT WORKS IN    
UNIVERSITIES, BUT IT WORKS WELL.  UNIVERSITIES, BUT IT WORKS WELL.
IT'S ALSO A PRINCIPLE THAT.  IT'S ALSO A PRINCIPLE THAT      
APPLIES TO STATE GOVERNMENT.  APPLIES TO STATE GOVERNMENT    
AGENCIES, AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO.

AGENCIES, AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO
TAKE A LOOK AT IT.  TAKE A LOOK AT IT.              
I THINK IT SERVED MINNESOTA.  I THINK IT SERVED MINNESOTA    
STATE WELL.

STATE WELL.                    
IF YOU LOOK AT MINNESOTA STATE.  IF YOU LOOK AT MINNESOTA STATE  
MANKATO, WE HAD A PRETTY GOOD.  MANKATO, WE HAD A PRETTY GOOD  
RUN FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS.

RUN FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS.        
THE CONCEPT IS THAT YOU DRAW.  THE CONCEPT IS THAT YOU DRAW    
UPON THE WISDOM OF ALL, AND YOU.  UPON THE WISDOM OF ALL, AND YOU
KNOW, I'M SITTING HERE WITH.

KNOW, I'M SITTING HERE WITH    
THREE FEMALE LEGISLATORS, AND.  THREE FEMALE LEGISLATORS, AND  
ALL THE LEGISLATORS ARE MALE,  ALL THE LEGISLATORS ARE MALE,  
AND RECENTLY WE WORKED WITHOUT.  AND RECENTLY WE WORKED WITHOUT  
THE WISDOM OF THE BROAD POP.  THE WISDOM OF THE BROAD POP    
POPULATION, AND THAT'S KIND OF.

POPULATION, AND THAT'S KIND OF  
ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF IT.  ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF IT.          
I THINK THE CHANCELLOR STUMBLED,  I THINK THE CHANCELLOR STUMBLED,
AND IN TWO WAYS:  ONE, THE.  AND IN TWO WAYS:  ONE, THE      
CONTRACT THAT WAS UNKNOWN AND.

CONTRACT THAT WAS UNKNOWN AND  
SECRET AND $2 MILLION CONTRACT.  SECRET AND $2 MILLION CONTRACT  
THAT GOT THAT SET UP, THAT'S NOT.  THAT GOT THAT SET UP, THAT'S NOT
SHARED GOVERNANCE, AND AS THE.  SHARED GOVERNANCE, AND AS THE  
COMMITTEES WERE STRUCTURED TO.

COMMITTEES WERE STRUCTURED TO  
INVESTIGATE THE VARIOUS AREAS.  INVESTIGATE THE VARIOUS AREAS  
THAT SHOULD BE LOOKED AT,  THAT SHOULD BE LOOKED AT,      
WHETHER IT BE ADVERSITY I HAVE.  WHETHER IT BE ADVERSITY I HAVE  
SEEP THE VIEWING ONLY INVOLVING.  SEEP THE VIEWING ONLY INVOLVING
ONE COMMUNITY COLLEGE FACULTY.

ONE COMMUNITY COLLEGE FACULTY  
AND ONE FROM THE UNIVERSITY.  AND ONE FROM THE UNIVERSITY    
SYSTEM, FROM 18 PEOPLE.  SYSTEM, FROM 18 PEOPLE.        
THERE'S ONE THING WE KNOW ABOUT.

THERE'S ONE THING WE KNOW ABOUT
UNIVERSITIES IS THE PROFESSORS.  UNIVERSITIES IS THE PROFESSORS  
WHO STAY AROUND.  WHO STAY AROUND.                
STUDENTS COME AND GO, AND.

STUDENTS COME AND GO, AND      
ADMINISTRATORS COME AND GO.  ADMINISTRATORS COME AND GO.    
IT'S A LOPPING-TERM COMMITTEE.  IT'S A LOPPING-TERM COMMITTEE  
FOR THE UNIVERSITY AND THE.

FOR THE UNIVERSITY AND THE      
PROFESSORS THEMSELVES.  PROFESSORS THEMSELVES.          
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THAT.  I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THAT
VOICE BE HELD BECAUSE THAT'S.

VOICE BE HELD BECAUSE THAT'S    
WHERE THE EDUCATION IS.  WHERE THE EDUCATION IS          
DELIVERED.  DELIVERED.                      
IF WE ARE GOING TO CHART THE.

IF WE ARE GOING TO CHART THE    
FUTURE, IT WILL BE ON THE BACKS.  FUTURE, IT WILL BE ON THE BACKS
OR BE IMPLEMENTED IN LANGER.  OR BE IMPLEMENTED IN LANGER    
MEASURE BY THOSE TEACHING THE.  MEASURE BY THOSE TEACHING THE  
CLASSES, TEACHING THE STUDENTS.

CLASSES, TEACHING THE STUDENTS.
IT STARTED SLOWLY AND.  IT STARTED SLOWLY AND          
INAPPROPRIATELY IN MY OPINION.  INAPPROPRIATELY IN MY OPINION.


THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT CAN'T BE.  THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT CAN'T BE  
FIXED.  FIXED.                          
I KNOW PEOPLE ARE TALKING AND.

I KNOW PEOPLE ARE TALKING AND  
WORKING AND NEGOTIATING TO TRY.  WORKING AND NEGOTIATING TO TRY  
AND WORK THROUGH THE.  AND WORK THROUGH THE            
DIFFERENCES, AND I THINK THE.  DIFFERENCES, AND I THINK THE    
DIFFERENCES CAN BE HE RESOLVED.

DIFFERENCES CAN BE HE RESOLVED.
A LOT OF THE IDEAS MAKE VERY.  A LOT OF THE IDEAS MAKE VERY    
GOOD SENSE BUT I THINK IT'S.  GOOD SENSE BUT I THINK IT'S    
INCUMBENT ON MNSCU TO DEVELOP A.

INCUMBENT ON MNSCU TO DEVELOP A
BETTER SYSTEM.  BETTER SYSTEM.                  
THE SYSTEM WILL BE STRONGER AND.  THE SYSTEM WILL BE STRONGER AND
THE STUDENTS WILL BENEFIT FROM.

THE STUDENTS WILL BENEFIT FROM  
THAT.  THAT.                          
I'M CONFIDENT THEY CAN DO THAT,  I'M CONFIDENT THEY CAN DO THAT,
BUT THEY HAVE GOT TO GET GOING,  BUT THEY HAVE GOT TO GET GOING,
AND DEMONSTRATE IT.  AND DEMONSTRATE IT.

           
THE GOVERNOR MADE A GOOD POINT.  THE GOVERNOR MADE A GOOD POINT.
IT NEEDS TO BE DEMONSTRATED.  IT NEEDS TO BE DEMONSTRATED.

 
I UNDERSTAND THAT REALLY WELL.  I UNDERSTAND THAT REALLY WELL.  
>> IF I COULD DIGRESS I HAD FOUR.  >> IF I COULD DIGRESS I HAD FOUR
UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA STUDENTS.

UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA STUDENTS
IN MY OFFICE TODAY, AND SEPARATE.  IN MY OFFICE TODAY, AND SEPARATE
FROM THE MNSCU ISSUE, WHAT WAS.  FROM THE MNSCU ISSUE, WHAT WAS  
INTERESTING TO ME THEY CAME TO.  INTERESTING TO ME THEY CAME TO  
THE LEGISLATURE, AND I ASKED.

THE LEGISLATURE, AND I ASKED    
WHAT ARE SOME OF YOUR COSTS, AND.  WHAT ARE SOME OF YOUR COSTS, AND
I REMEMBER IT'S LIKE GOING TO.  I REMEMBER IT'S LIKE GOING TO  
COLLEGE.  COLLEGE.

                     
BUT THEY SPEND ALMOST $1,000 ON.  BUT THEY SPEND ALMOST $1,000 ON
BOOKS ALONE, AND YOU CAN'T.  BOOKS ALONE, AND YOU CAN'T      
IMAGINE THAT CIEP OF COSTS, AND.  IMAGINE THAT CIEP OF COSTS, AND
THINK MOST STUDENTS, THEY.

THINK MOST STUDENTS, THEY      
HAVEN'T HAD SOMEBODY THAT HAD.  HAVEN'T HAD SOMEBODY THAT HAD  
GONE TO COLLEGE PRIOR TO THEM,  GONE TO COLLEGE PRIOR TO THEM,  
THEY DON'T KNOW THE HIDDEN.  THEY DON'T KNOW THE HIDDEN      
COSTS, AND I ASKED ABOUT THE.  COSTS, AND I ASKED ABOUT THE    
RENT AND FOOD 6789 AND THERE WAS.

RENT AND FOOD 6789 AND THERE WAS
A STUDENT FROM MORRIS, AND SHE.  A STUDENT FROM MORRIS, AND SHE  
SAID IT'S SENSE EXTENSIVE TO BUY.  SAID IT'S SENSE EXTENSIVE TO BUY
FOOD IN MORRIS, AND OVERALL IN.  FOOD IN MORRIS, AND OVERALL IN  
THE HIGHER ED SYSTEM, ALTHOUGH.

THE HIGHER ED SYSTEM, ALTHOUGH  
IT'S NOT PERTINENT TO THE.  IT'S NOT PERTINENT TO THE      
CALLER'S QUESTION, I THINK WE.  CALLER'S QUESTION, I THINK WE  
NEED TO BE MINDFUL WHAT WE ARE.  NEED TO BE MINDFUL WHAT WE ARE  
PUTTING ON THE BACKS OF OUR.

PUTTING ON THE BACKS OF OUR    
STUDENTS AND TRY TO REIGN THAT.  STUDENTS AND TRY TO REIGN THAT  
IN.  IN.                            
>> AND THEY ARE ASKING FOR A.

>> AND THEY ARE ASKING FOR A    
TUITION FREEZE AS WELL.  TUITION FREEZE AS WELL.        
>> WE NEED TO JUST SAY, THOUGH,  >> WE NEED TO JUST SAY, THOUGH,
A TUITION FREEZE IS MAYBE A.  A TUITION FREEZE IS MAYBE A    
MISNOMER, AND A TUITION FREES IS.

MISNOMER, AND A TUITION FREES IS
A TUITION FREES, BUT THE.  A TUITION FREES, BUT THE        
TAXPAYERS ARE ASKING TO PAY MORE.  TAXPAYERS ARE ASKING TO PAY MORE
TO HOLD IT DOWN.  TO HOLD IT DOWN.

             
>> THE HIGHER COST OF EDUCATION.  >> THE HIGHER COST OF EDUCATION
IS A PROBLEM, AND WE ARE FOURTH.  IS A PROBLEM, AND WE ARE FOURTH
OR FIFTH IN THE NATION, AND THAT.  OR FIFTH IN THE NATION, AND THAT
IS A LIST WE SHOULD NOT BE.

IS A LIST WE SHOULD NOT BE      
LEADING, AND THERE IS A LOT OF.  LEADING, AND THERE IS A LOT OF  
WORK TO DO THERE, AND I WOULD.  WORK TO DO THERE, AND I WOULD  
SAY NO FREE LUNCH.  SAY NO FREE LUNCH.

           
THERE'S NO FREE TUITION EITHER.  THERE'S NO FREE TUITION EITHER.
>> HISTORICALLY, 10, 20 YEARS.  >> HISTORICALLY, 10, 20 YEARS  
AGO, THEY HAD A MUCH BIGGER.

AGO, THEY HAD A MUCH BIGGER    
STAKE IN HIGHER EDUCATION.  STAKE IN HIGHER EDUCATION.      
>> Z A U OF M STUDENT IN MY.  >> Z A U OF M STUDENT IN MY    
OFFICE.

OFFICE.                        
>> WE MET THIS SUMMER ON A FARM,  >> WE MET THIS SUMMER ON A FARM,
AND SHE HAD SECURED A GRANT TO.  AND SHE HAD SECURED A GRANT TO  
ADD A ROBOT TO THE ROBOT.  ADD A ROBOT TO THE ROBOT        
OPERATION, AND THEY COULD BECOME.

OPERATION, AND THEY COULD BECOME
PART OF THE FUNDING OPERATION.  PART OF THE FUNDING OPERATION.  
BUT THE POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE.  BUT THE POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE
IS OVER TIME WE LET THE STATE.

IS OVER TIME WE LET THE STATE  
INVESTMENT ERODE AND THE.  INVESTMENT ERODE AND THE        
EDUCATION IS FOR THE STUDENT,  EDUCATION IS FOR THE STUDENT,  
BUT WE EDUCATE OUR STUDENTS TO.  BUT WE EDUCATE OUR STUDENTS TO  
THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEMS AND WE.  THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEMS AND WE
ARE BUILDING CAPACITY FOR THE.

ARE BUILDING CAPACITY FOR THE  
FUTURE OF MINNESOTA, AND.  FUTURE OF MINNESOTA, AND        
EVERYBODY IN MINNESOTA CAN.  EVERYBODY IN MINNESOTA CAN      
BENEFIT FROM THAT.  BENEFIT FROM THAT.

           
GOT TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT, AND I.  GOT TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT, AND I
WAS GLAD WE ACCOMPLISHED THE.  WAS GLAD WE ACCOMPLISHED THE    
TUITION FREES IN THE LAST.  TUITION FREES IN THE LAST      
SESSION, AND I BO, I TELL YOU,  SESSION, AND I BO, I TELL YOU,  
THAT HELPED A LOT OF STUDENTS.

THAT HELPED A LOT OF STUDENTS.  
I HAVE WORKED WITH STUDENTS A.  I HAVE WORKED WITH STUDENTS A  
LONG TIME, AND THE ECONOMIC.  LONG TIME, AND THE ECONOMIC    
REALITY OF THE STUDENT IS IT IS.

REALITY OF THE STUDENT IS IT IS
REAL, AND IT'S TOUGH AND WHAT I.  REAL, AND IT'S TOUGH AND WHAT I
SEE IS SO MANY STUDENTS THAT.  SEE IS SO MANY STUDENTS THAT    
STRUGGLE TO PAY FOR COLLEGE END.  STRUGGLE TO PAY FOR COLLEGE END
UP WORKING MORE AND PUTS.

UP WORKING MORE AND PUTS        
PRESSURE ON HOW MUCH TIME THEY.  PRESSURE ON HOW MUCH TIME THEY  
CAN FOCUS ON THEIR STUDIES.  CAN FOCUS ON THEIR STUDIES.    
>> ONE THING TO ADD TO THAT, I.

>> ONE THING TO ADD TO THAT, I  
SUPPORT THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL.  SUPPORT THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL
AND HAVE COSPONSORED THE.  AND HAVE COSPONSORED THE        
GOVERNOR'S HIGH ED PROPOSAL.  GOVERNOR'S HIGH ED PROPOSAL.

 
I SUPPORT THAT.  I SUPPORT THAT.                
THE BEST WAY WE CAN HELP.  THE BEST WAY WE CAN HELP        
STUDENTS IS MAKE SURE WHEN THEY.

STUDENTS IS MAKE SURE WHEN THEY
GET TO COLLEGE THAT THEY ARE.  GET TO COLLEGE THAT THEY ARE    
COLLEGE READY, RIGHT NOW ONLY.  COLLEGE READY, RIGHT NOW ONLY  
39% OF THE KIDS WHO TAKE THE ACT.  39% OF THE KIDS WHO TAKE THE ACT
ARE COLLEGE READY.

ARE COLLEGE READY.              
THAT IS A MAJOR PROBLEM WHEN IT.  THAT IS A MAJOR PROBLEM WHEN IT
COMES TO GETTING KIDS THROUGH.  COMES TO GETTING KIDS THROUGH  
COLLEGE.

COLLEGE.                        
I THINK WE HAVE WORK TO DO ON.  I THINK WE HAVE WORK TO DO ON  
THE K-12 SYSTEM AS WELL.  THE K-12 SYSTEM AS WELL.

     
>> I'M NOT GOING TO SAY ANYTHING.  >> I'M NOT GOING TO SAY ANYTHING
ABOUT THE MNSCU QUESTION, BUT.  ABOUT THE MNSCU QUESTION, BUT  
I'M GOING TO SAY STATISTICS.  I'M GOING TO SAY STATISTICS    
CROSS MY DESK BECAUSE I SERVE AS.

CROSS MY DESK BECAUSE I SERVE AS
LASLIAISON.  LASLIAISON.                    
THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS ATTENDING.  THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS ATTENDING
LAW SCHOOL IS 1970 LEVELS.

LAW SCHOOL IS 1970 LEVELS.      
FOR SOME PEOPLE THE THOUGHT.  FOR SOME PEOPLE THE THOUGHT    
THERE ARE GOING TO BE FEWER.  THERE ARE GOING TO BE FEWER    
LAWYERS ENTERING THE PIPELINE IS.

LAWYERS ENTERING THE PIPELINE IS
NOT VIEWED AS A NEGATIVE.  NOT VIEWED AS A NEGATIVE.      
BUT IT IS A SIGN, PERHAPS, THAT.  BUT IT IS A SIGN, PERHAPS, THAT
WHAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.

WHAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT
HERE IS THAT THERE'S CHANGE OUT.  HERE IS THAT THERE'S CHANGE OUT
THERE.  THERE.                          
A QUESTION FROM ANOTHER.

A QUESTION FROM ANOTHER        
VIEWER -- THIS IS INTERESTING.  VIEWER -- THIS IS INTERESTING.  
THIS IS THE REVERSE OF A.  THIS IS THE REVERSE OF A        
DISCUSSION THE PANEL HAD A.

DISCUSSION THE PANEL HAD A      
COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO ABOUT WHY.  COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO ABOUT WHY  
THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA.  THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA.          
THIS VIEWER IS NOT SURE THERE'S.

THIS VIEWER IS NOT SURE THERE'S
A GOOD IDEA.  A GOOD IDEA.                    
OUR PANEL A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.  OUR PANEL A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO
WAS POINTING OUT PROBLEMS THAT.

WAS POINTING OUT PROBLEMS THAT  
CREATES FARMERS AND THIS VIEWER.  CREATES FARMERS AND THIS VIEWER
NOTES IT WOULD HAVE TO FILL THE.  NOTES IT WOULD HAVE TO FILL THE
GAP.  GAP.

                         
WHAT'S HAPPENED TO THAT.  WHAT'S HAPPENED TO THAT        
PROPOSAL.  PROPOSAL.                      
ANYBODY KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT,  ANYBODY KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT,
WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT?  WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT?          
>> I KNOW ABOUT THIS A LOT OF.

>> I KNOW ABOUT THIS A LOT OF  
THE STUDENTS HAD A REFERENDUM.  THE STUDENTS HAD A REFERENDUM.  
THE FARMERS OUT THERE ARE PAYING.  THE FARMERS OUT THERE ARE PAYING
A LOT OF MONEY TO BUILD THAT.

A LOT OF MONEY TO BUILD THAT    
SCHOOL.  SCHOOL.                        
IT'S REFLECTIVE OF THE STEEP.  IT'S REFLECTIVE OF THE STEEP    
INCREASE OVER THE LAST SEVERAL.

INCREASE OVER THE LAST SEVERAL  
YEARS, THE HIGH PRICE OF CORN.  YEARS, THE HIGH PRICE OF CORN.  
CERTAINLY THAT HAS VALUE.  CERTAINLY THAT HAS VALUE.

     
WE ARE TALKING SOME FARMERS 10  WE ARE TALKING SOME FARMERS 10  
THOWRD.  THOWRD.                        
IT'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF.  IT'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF    
MONEY RELATED TO THE OPERATION.

MONEY RELATED TO THE OPERATION.
CORN AND BEAN PRICES ARE LOWER.  CORN AND BEAN PRICES ARE LOWER.
THERE'S A LOT OF PRESSURE THERE,  THERE'S A LOT OF PRESSURE THERE,
AND IT SEEMS TO ME AG LAND, YOU.

AND IT SEEMS TO ME AG LAND, YOU
MADE MONEY OFF AG LAND.  MADE MONEY OFF AG LAND.        
IT'S A SOURCE OF INCOME.  IT'S A SOURCE OF INCOME.

     
HOW DOES THIS COMPARE TO.  HOW DOES THIS COMPARE TO        
COMMERCIAL LAND?  COMMERCIAL LAND?                
AND I LOOKED AT ST. PETER.  AND I LOOKED AT ST.

PETER      
DISTRICT AND COMPARED A 500-ACRE.  DISTRICT AND COMPARED A 500-ACRE
FARM TO MCDONALD'S AND THOUGHT I.  FARM TO MCDONALD'S AND THOUGHT I
DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT'S A FAIR.  DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT'S A FAIR    
COMPARISON, BUT I WANTED TO SEE.

COMPARISON, BUT I WANTED TO SEE
WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE.  WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE.        
SO IT MAKES ME THINK IT'S TIME.  SO IT MAKES ME THINK IT'S TIME  
TO MAKE SOME SORT OF ADJUSTMENT.

TO MAKE SOME SORT OF ADJUSTMENT.
TO COMPLETELY TAKE IT OFF THE AG.  TO COMPLETELY TAKE IT OFF THE AG
LAND WOULD PUT A LOT OF PRESSURE.  LAND WOULD PUT A LOT OF PRESSURE
ON BUSINESSES AND THE.  ON BUSINESSES AND THE          
HOMEOWNERS.

HOMEOWNERS.                    
THS A LOT OF FARMERS THAT ARE.  THS A LOT OF FARMERS THAT ARE  
SUPPORTING THAT, BUT I'M HOPING.  SUPPORTING THAT, BUT I'M HOPING
WE CAN COME UP WITH A RACIAL.

WE CAN COME UP WITH A RACIAL    
APPROACH TO IT.  APPROACH TO IT.                
I GOT A TAX YESTERDAY FROM.  I GOT A TAX YESTERDAY FROM      
SOMEONE WHO IS ASSOCIATED WITH.

SOMEONE WHO IS ASSOCIATED WITH  
SCHOOLS IN THE DISTRICT NEAR MY.  SCHOOLS IN THE DISTRICT NEAR MY
DISTRICT.  DISTRICT.                      
HE WAS SUGGESTING CUTTING IN.

HE WAS SUGGESTING CUTTING IN    
HALF THE AG TAX FOR BUILDING.  HALF THE AG TAX FOR BUILDING    
SCHOOLS.  SCHOOLS.                        
THE SECOND PROBLEM ASSOCIATED.

THE SECOND PROBLEM ASSOCIATED  
WITH IT IT'S HARD TO GO BACK ON.  WITH IT IT'S HARD TO GO BACK ON
IT.  IT.                            
YOU CAN'T ADJUST IT AFTER THE.

YOU CAN'T ADJUST IT AFTER THE  
VOTE.  VOTE.                          
SO THERE'S THAT ISSUE AS WELL.  SO THERE'S THAT ISSUE AS WELL.


AND I THINK POSSIBLY THE MOST.  AND I THINK POSSIBLY THE MOST  
RATIONAL ANSWERS ARE INVOLVING.  RATIONAL ANSWERS ARE INVOLVING  
SOME STATE INVESTMENT TO.  SOME STATE INVESTMENT TO        
EQUALIZE, AND ALSO THERE'S A.

EQUALIZE, AND ALSO THERE'S A    
PROPOSAL TO ALLOW SCHOOL.  PROPOSAL TO ALLOW SCHOOL        
DISTRICTS TO DETERMINE HOW THAT.  DISTRICTS TO DETERMINE HOW THAT
MIX WOULD PLAY IN TERMS OF.  MIX WOULD PLAY IN TERMS OF      
BUSINESS HOMES AND AG LAND.

BUSINESS HOMES AND AG LAND.    
ANOTHER THOUGHT I HAD WAS TO.  ANOTHER THOUGHT I HAD WAS TO    
PULL OFF A NONPRODUCTIVE AG.  PULL OFF A NONPRODUCTIVE AG    
LAND, BUT THIS IS A REAL.

LAND, BUT THIS IS A REAL        
PROBLEM.  PROBLEM.                        
IT'S NOT ONLY A FINANCIAL.  IT'S NOT ONLY A FINANCIAL      
PROBLEM, BUT IT ALSO CREATES.

PROBLEM, BUT IT ALSO CREATES    
COMMUNITY UNREST, BECAUSE.  COMMUNITY UNREST, BECAUSE      
THERE'S A SENSE OF UNFAIRNESS,  THERE'S A SENSE OF UNFAIRNESS,  
AND IT PITS ONE PART OF THE.  AND IT PITS ONE PART OF THE    
COMMUNITY AGAINST THE OTHER PART.  COMMUNITY AGAINST THE OTHER PART
OF THE COMMUNITY, AND THAT'S.

OF THE COMMUNITY, AND THAT'S    
NEVER HEALTHY.  NEVER HEALTHY.                  
>> LET ME ADD AS MEMBER OF THE.  >> LET ME ADD AS MEMBER OF THE  
TAX COMMITTEE, YOU ACCURATELY.

TAX COMMITTEE, YOU ACCURATELY  
DESCRIBED WELL, WITH INCREASING.  DESCRIBED WELL, WITH INCREASING
PROPERTY TAXES AND DECREASING.  PROPERTY TAXES AND DECREASING  
COMMODITY PRICES AND WHEN THE AG.  COMMODITY PRICES AND WHEN THE AG
LAND WAS HIGH, THAT'S WHAT IT'S.

LAND WAS HIGH, THAT'S WHAT IT'S
BASED ON.  BASED ON.                      
AND FARMERS ARE GETTING DOUBLE.  AND FARMERS ARE GETTING DOUBLE  
HIT.

HIT.                            
THIS IDEA ABOUT AG LAND AND.  THIS IDEA ABOUT AG LAND AND    
REFERENDUMS FOR SCHOOL IS.  REFERENDUMS FOR SCHOOL IS      
TROUBLING.

TROUBLING.                      
THAT'S THE ISSUE WITH PROPERTY.  THAT'S THE ISSUE WITH PROPERTY  
TAXES.  TAXES.

                       
WHEN YOU GIVE AN EXEMPTION OR.  WHEN YOU GIVE AN EXEMPTION OR  
LOWER SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY TAXES,  LOWER SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY TAXES,
THAT DOESN'T LOWER TAXES BECAUSE.  THAT DOESN'T LOWER TAXES BECAUSE
THE CITY OR THE STATE OR THE.  THE CITY OR THE STATE OR THE    
COUNTY ARE STILL RAISING THE.

COUNTY ARE STILL RAISING THE    
SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY.  SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY.          
IT SPREADS IT ON TO OTHER.  IT SPREADS IT ON TO OTHER      
PEOPLE.

PEOPLE.                        
>> AND THE OTHER THING ABOUT.  >> AND THE OTHER THING ABOUT    
PROPERTY TAXES, THEY ARE THE.  PROPERTY TAXES, THEY ARE THE    
VERY BEST TYPE OF TAX, BECAUSE.

VERY BEST TYPE OF TAX, BECAUSE  
THEY ARE VISIBLE, AND PEOPLE SEE.  THEY ARE VISIBLE, AND PEOPLE SEE
THEM.  THEM.                          
THEY LITERALLY HAVE TO WRITE OUT.

THEY LITERALLY HAVE TO WRITE OUT
THAT CHECK, AND IT MAKES PEOPLE.  THAT CHECK, AND IT MAKES PEOPLE
WHO RAISE PROPERTY TAXES A LOT.  WHO RAISE PROPERTY TAXES A LOT  
MORE ACCOUNTABLE, I THINK.  MORE ACCOUNTABLE, I THINK.

   
>> I'M NOT THE TAX EXPERT, AND.  >> I'M NOT THE TAX EXPERT, AND  
MY HISTORY WOULD BE HAVING THE.  MY HISTORY WOULD BE HAVING THE  
STATE INVESTMENT TO EQUALIZE THE.  STATE INVESTMENT TO EQUALIZE THE
PLAYING FIELD FOR SCHOOLS, BUT.

PLAYING FIELD FOR SCHOOLS, BUT  
WE ARE ALREADY DEALING WITH THAT.  WE ARE ALREADY DEALING WITH THAT
ISSUE.  ISSUE.                          
WOULD THAT EXACERBATE THE ISSUE.

WOULD THAT EXACERBATE THE ISSUE
THAT WE ALREADY HAVE WHERE THE.  THAT WE ALREADY HAVE WHERE THE  
METRO OR THE COUNTIES ARE ABLE.  METRO OR THE COUNTIES ARE ABLE  
TO RAISE MORE FUNDS AND HAVE.  TO RAISE MORE FUNDS AND HAVE    
MORE MONEY, AND WHERE IS THE.

MORE MONEY, AND WHERE IS THE    
MONEY RAISED AND WHEN WE GET IT.  MONEY RAISED AND WHEN WE GET IT
TO THE STATES HOW DO WE SPREAD.  TO THE STATES HOW DO WE SPREAD  
IT OUT.  IT OUT.

                       
I WOULD MAKE SURE THIS IS ADDING.  I WOULD MAKE SURE THIS IS ADDING
TO THE ISSUE OF EQUALIZING,  TO THE ISSUE OF EQUALIZING,    
BECAUSE WE WANT ALL SCHOOLS TO.  BECAUSE WE WANT ALL SCHOOLS TO  
BE GREAT.  BE GREAT.

                     
>> I THINK A DIFFERENT APPROACH.  >> I THINK A DIFFERENT APPROACH
TO TAKE IS IF YOU HAVE PROPERTY.  TO TAKE IS IF YOU HAVE PROPERTY
OUTSIDE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, YOU.  OUTSIDE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, YOU
ACTUALLY GET TO VOTE ON THE.

ACTUALLY GET TO VOTE ON THE    
SCHOOL REFERENDUM AND IT WOULD.  SCHOOL REFERENDUM AND IT WOULD  
MAYBE EASE SOME OF THE COMMUNITY.  MAYBE EASE SOME OF THE COMMUNITY
TENSIONS, AND RIGHT NOW IF A.  TENSIONS, AND RIGHT NOW IF A    
FARMER HAS PROPERTY OUTSIDE OF.

FARMER HAS PROPERTY OUTSIDE OF  
THE DISTRICT HE RESIDES IN, HE.  THE DISTRICT HE RESIDES IN, HE  
DOESN'T GET TO VOTE ON THE.  DOESN'T GET TO VOTE ON THE      
REFERENDUM OR HE, SHE.  REFERENDUM OR HE, SHE.

       
>> MY DISTRICT EDINA, IN.  >> MY DISTRICT EDINA, IN        
PARTICULAR, AND I HAVE A LOT OF.  PARTICULAR, AND I HAVE A LOT OF
SENIORS, AND THEY ARE PROUD OF.  SENIORS, AND THEY ARE PROUD OF  
PAYING THE PROPERTY TAXES AND.

PAYING THE PROPERTY TAXES AND  
KNOWING THE SCHOOL SYSTEM IS.  KNOWING THE SCHOOL SYSTEM IS    
REAPING BENEFITS FOR THE.  REAPING BENEFITS FOR THE        
COMMUNITY, AND THERE'S ALSO THAT.  COMMUNITY, AND THERE'S ALSO THAT
WITH A SENSE OF FRIDAY.

WITH A SENSE OF FRIDAY.        
WE ARE WILLING TO INVEST IN OUR.  WE ARE WILLING TO INVEST IN OUR
SCHOOL, AND IT'S ANOTHER EVENT.  SCHOOL, AND IT'S ANOTHER EVENT  
THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD ALL MAKE.

THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD ALL MAKE  
SURE IT HELPS ALL TO HAVE GREAT.  SURE IT HELPS ALL TO HAVE GREAT
SCHOOLS, AND WE SHOULD BE PART.  SCHOOLS, AND WE SHOULD BE PART  
OF IT, TOO.  OF IT, TOO.

                   
>> QUESTION FROM RAND IN STAPLES.  >> QUESTION FROM RAND IN STAPLES
ABOUT WOLVES.  ABOUT WOLVES.                  
AS A WOLF, THE DEER POPULATION.

AS A WOLF, THE DEER POPULATION  
DECREASES, AND THE MOOSE ARE.  DECREASES, AND THE MOOSE ARE    
NEARLY GONE, AND IS IT.  NEARLY GONE, AND IS IT          
MINNESOTA'S FAULT THE WOLF HAS.  MINNESOTA'S FAULT THE WOLF HAS  
BEEN PUT ON THE ENDANGERED.

BEEN PUT ON THE ENDANGERED      
SPECIES LIST?  SPECIES LIST?                  
JUST SO THE VIEWERS UNDERSTAND.  JUST SO THE VIEWERS UNDERSTAND  
THAT DECISION IS AS A RESULT OF.  THAT DECISION IS AS A RESULT OF
A FEDERAL DISTRICT COURT.  A FEDERAL DISTRICT COURT        
DECISION, AND NOBODY AT THIS.

DECISION, AND NOBODY AT THIS    
TABLE, MYSELF INCLUDED, CAN DO.  TABLE, MYSELF INCLUDED, CAN DO  
ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.  ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.            
THE QUESTION IS WHAT HAPPENS IF.

THE QUESTION IS WHAT HAPPENS IF
THERE'S GOING TO BE A.  THERE'S GOING TO BE A          
LEGISLATIVE ACTION HERE?  LEGISLATIVE ACTION HERE?        
I WILL THROW THAT OUT THERE.  I WILL THROW THAT OUT THERE.    
ANYBODY HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THE.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THE
WOLVES AND WHAT WE DO ABOUT THIS.  WOLVES AND WHAT WE DO ABOUT THIS
IF ANYTHING?  IF ANYTHING?                    
>> THE FIRST ISSUE IS THE.  >> THE FIRST ISSUE IS THE      
FARMERS, AND IN THE AG COMMITTEE.  FARMERS, AND IN THE AG COMMITTEE
THEY PASSED AROUND A DOCUMENT.

THEY PASSED AROUND A DOCUMENT  
SHOWING GRAPHICALLY, THE IMPACT.  SHOWING GRAPHICALLY, THE IMPACT
OF THE WOLVES, AND WE SAW THE.  OF THE WOLVES, AND WE SAW THE  
APPLICATION -- WHAT HAPPENS IF A.  APPLICATION -- WHAT HAPPENS IF A
WOLF ATTACKS A COW OR CALF AND.

WOLF ATTACKS A COW OR CALF AND  
KILLS THE CALF IT'S CALLED DEPP.  KILLS THE CALF IT'S CALLED DEPP
DEPRIVATATION.  DEPRIVATATION.                  
THIS PARM FARMER WAS UNABLE TO E.

THIS PARM FARMER WAS UNABLE TO E
IT WAS ACTUALLY A WOLF.  IT WAS ACTUALLY A WOLF.        
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ALSO HAS.  THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ALSO HAS
A PROGRAM BUT THEY PAY FAR LESS.

A PROGRAM BUT THEY PAY FAR LESS.
THEY DON'T PAY MARKET VALUE BUT.  THEY DON'T PAY MARKET VALUE BUT
THE VALUE OF THE CALF AT THE.  THE VALUE OF THE CALF AT THE    
TIME.  TIME.

                         
THERE'S POTENTIAL VALUE IN A.  THERE'S POTENTIAL VALUE IN A    
CALF OR COW.  CALF OR COW.                    
THE POTENTIAL VALUE IS WHEN IT.

THE POTENTIAL VALUE IS WHEN IT  
COMES TO MARKET.  COMES TO MARKET.                
THE STATE DEFINITELY IN MY MIND.  THE STATE DEFINITELY IN MY MIND
IS A FAIR SYSTEM.

IS A FAIR SYSTEM.              
WE RAN OUT OF MONEY FOR DEPRIVE.  WE RAN OUT OF MONEY FOR DEPRIVE
DEPRIVATION FUNDS.  DEPRIVATION FUNDS.

           
THIS ISSUE COMES BEFORE US, AND.  THIS ISSUE COMES BEFORE US, AND
HE HAD TO WAIT UNTIL 11:00 IN.  HE HAD TO WAIT UNTIL 11:00 IN  
THE MORNING.  THE MORNING.

                 
THAT'S A VERY PRACTICAL ISSUE.  THAT'S A VERY PRACTICAL ISSUE.  
IT'S VERY IMPORTANT, AND IT'S.  IT'S VERY IMPORTANT, AND IT'S  
IMPORTANT WE MOVE ON THAT.

IMPORTANT WE MOVE ON THAT.      
>> ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON WHICH.  >> ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON WHICH  
?P WE WILL MOVE ON.  ?P WE WILL MOVE ON.

           
A VIEWER FROM BEMIDJI WANTS TO.  A VIEWER FROM BEMIDJI WANTS TO  
TALK ABOUT LGA.  TALK ABOUT LGA.                
THERE'S NO TRANSPORTATION.

THERE'S NO TRANSPORTATION      
INCREASE, AND LEGISLATURE.  INCREASE, AND LEGISLATURE      
INCREASE IN LGA THIS YEAR AND.  INCREASE IN LGA THIS YEAR AND  
WANTS TO MOVE IT TO 2003 LEVELS.  WANTS TO MOVE IT TO 2003 LEVELS.
>> AND LET'S START WITH YOU.

>> AND LET'S START WITH YOU.    
>> LGA WAS SUPPOSED TO REDUCE.  >> LGA WAS SUPPOSED TO REDUCE  
PROPERTY TAXES AND WE SAW HERE.  PROPERTY TAXES AND WE SAW HERE  
IN THE LAST TWO YEARS THAT.

IN THE LAST TWO YEARS THAT      
DIDN'T HAPPEN.  DIDN'T HAPPEN.                  
IF THAT'S WHAT THE INDIVIDUAL.  IF THAT'S WHAT THE INDIVIDUAL  
HAS IN MIND THAT THIS IS SOMEHOW.

HAS IN MIND THAT THIS IS SOMEHOW
GOING TO BE THE MAGIC BULLET TO.  GOING TO BE THE MAGIC BULLET TO
DECREASE THE PROPERTY TAXES I'M.  DECREASE THE PROPERTY TAXES I'M
GOING TO TELL THEM RIGHT NOW.  GOING TO TELL THEM RIGHT NOW    
IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.      
I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO A.  I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO A    
BETTER JOB OF IS MAKING SURE.  BETTER JOB OF IS MAKING SURE    
THAT WE ARE MINDFUL THAT THESE.

THAT WE ARE MINDFUL THAT THESE  
ARE TAX DOLLARS OR THE CITIZENS.  ARE TAX DOLLARS OR THE CITIZENS
OF THE STATE OF MINNESOTA, AND.  OF THE STATE OF MINNESOTA, AND  
MAYBE DO A LITTLE BIT MORE.  MAYBE DO A LITTLE BIT MORE      
EXPLORATION INTO HOW THESE.

EXPLORATION INTO HOW THESE      
DOLLARS ARE SPENT AND USED, AND.  DOLLARS ARE SPENT AND USED, AND
GET SOME PARAMETERS IN PLACE.  GET SOME PARAMETERS IN PLACE    
THAT MAYBE WILL GIVE US GREATER.  THAT MAYBE WILL GIVE US GREATER
CONFIDENCE THAT WE WILL BE.

CONFIDENCE THAT WE WILL BE      
GIVING PROPERTY TAX RELIEF TO.  GIVING PROPERTY TAX RELIEF TO  
CITIZENS WITH FUNDS THAT GET.  CITIZENS WITH FUNDS THAT GET    
SENT AWAY.  SENT AWAY.

                   
>> LGA?  >> LGA?                        
>> MOST DON'T RECEIVE IT, AND IF.  >> MOST DON'T RECEIVE IT, AND IF
THEY DO, THEY DON'T WANT IT.  THEY DO, THEY DON'T WANT IT.    
THEY PAY MORE IN THAN THEY GET.

THEY PAY MORE IN THAN THEY GET  
OUT OF THE POT.  OUT OF THE POT.                
>> YOUR THOUGHTS?  >> YOUR THOUGHTS?              
>> COMMUNITIES ARE VERY.  >> COMMUNITIES ARE VERY        
DIFFERENT.

DIFFERENT.                      
SOME COMMUNITIES DEPEND ON LGA.  SOME COMMUNITIES DEPEND ON LGA  
TO PROVIDE THE ESSENTIAL.  TO PROVIDE THE ESSENTIAL        
SERVICES IN WHICH LGA WAS.

SERVICES IN WHICH LGA WAS      
ORIGINALLY DESIGNED.  ORIGINALLY DESIGNED.            
OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE PROPERTY.  OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE PROPERTY  
RICH COMMUNITIES, AND YET THEY.

RICH COMMUNITIES, AND YET THEY  
STILL GET LGA.  STILL GET LGA.                  
IT'S KIND OF THE CHALLENGE, THE.  IT'S KIND OF THE CHALLENGE, THE
BIGGEST CHALLENGE IS IT'S USED.

BIGGEST CHALLENGE IS IT'S USED  
AS A SHELL GAME.  AS A SHELL GAME.                
SOME WILL SAY THE PROPERTY TACKS.  SOME WILL SAY THE PROPERTY TACKS
ARE RAISED BECAUSE THE LGA WAS.

ARE RAISED BECAUSE THE LGA WAS  
CUT, AND I THINK -- I DON'T.  CUT, AND I THINK -- I DON'T    
THINK IT HELPS CITIZENS HOLD THE.  THINK IT HELPS CITIZENS HOLD THE
GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTABLE.  GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTABLE.

       
BUT THERE ARE DEFINITE NEEDS FOR.  BUT THERE ARE DEFINITE NEEDS FOR
LGA, BUT IT'S BEEN SO.  LGA, BUT IT'S BEEN SO          
POLITICIZED OVER THE LAST I.  POLITICIZED OVER THE LAST I    
DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YEARS, AND.

DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YEARS, AND  
IT'S BEEN PROBABLY 10 OR 20  IT'S BEEN PROBABLY 10 OR 20    
YEARS, AND I'M NOT SURE IT'S.  YEARS, AND I'M NOT SURE IT'S    
ACTUALLY GOING TO THOSE.  ACTUALLY GOING TO THOSE        
COMMUNITIES WHERE IT'S NEEDED.  COMMUNITIES WHERE IT'S NEEDED  
FOR THE BASIC SERVICES AND I.

FOR THE BASIC SERVICES AND I    
THINK WE ARE LONG OVERDUE FOR.  THINK WE ARE LONG OVERDUE FOR  
LOOKING AT LGA AND MAKING SURE.  LOOKING AT LGA AND MAKING SURE  
IT'S ACCOMPLISHING THE PURPOSE.  IT'S ACCOMPLISHING THE PURPOSE  
WITH WHICH IT WAS DESIGNED.

WITH WHICH IT WAS DESIGNED.    
>> THE BEMIDJI STATE BEAVERS.  >> THE BEMIDJI STATE BEAVERS    
BEAT MANKATO M MAVERICKS.  BEAT MANKATO M MAVERICKS.

     
WE WANTED TO GET THAT IN.  WE WANTED TO GET THAT IN.      
>> LGA IS REALLY IMPORTANT,  >> LGA IS REALLY IMPORTANT,    
LOCAL GOVERNMENT AID, AND IT IS.  LOCAL GOVERNMENT AID, AND IT IS
MEETING ITS PURPOSE.

MEETING ITS PURPOSE.            
THE IDEA OF LOCAL GA. AID IS TO.  THE IDEA OF LOCAL GA.

AID IS TO
RECOGNIZE MANY OF OUR.  RECOGNIZE MANY OF OUR          
COMMUNITIES IN RURAL MINNESOTA.  COMMUNITIES IN RURAL MINNESOTA  
SIMPLY DO NOT HAVE THE PROPERTY.  SIMPLY DO NOT HAVE THE PROPERTY
TAX BASE, AND THIS IS PART OF.

TAX BASE, AND THIS IS PART OF  
THE ACTUAL DISPARITY OF PROPERTY.  THE ACTUAL DISPARITY OF PROPERTY
VALUES IN OUR STATE.  VALUES IN OUR STATE.            
I MANAGERRED THAT MCDONALD'S IN.

I MANAGERRED THAT MCDONALD'S IN
ST. PETER AND SOMETIMES THE.  ST. PETER AND SOMETIMES THE    
FOLKS IN ST.

PETER JOKE IT'S ONE.  FOLKS IN ST. PETER JOKE IT'S ONE
OF THE MOST VALUABLE PERSONAL.  OF THE MOST VALUABLE PERSONAL  
PROPERTIES IN ST.

PETER, AND IT.  PROPERTIES IN ST. PETER, AND IT
IS, AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S A.  IS, AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S A
LOT OF COMMUNITIES THAT WOULD.

LOT OF COMMUNITIES THAT WOULD  
SAY THE LOCAL MCDONALD'S IS ONE.  SAY THE LOCAL MCDONALD'S IS ONE
OF THE MOST VALUABLE PROPERTIES.  OF THE MOST VALUABLE PROPERTIES.
SO CITIES LIKE ST. PETER'S THEY.

SO CITIES LIKE ST. PETER'S THEY
ARE GOING TO PROVIDE THE BASIC.  ARE GOING TO PROVIDE THE BASIC  
SERVICES THAT THEIR CITIZENS.  SERVICES THAT THEIR CITIZENS    
NEED AT THE SAME LEVEL, AND THEY.

NEED AT THE SAME LEVEL, AND THEY
NEED LOCAL GOVERNMENT AID.  NEED LOCAL GOVERNMENT AID.      
I WILL ARGUE TO MY DEATH AND I.  I WILL ARGUE TO MY DEATH AND I  
WILL ARGUE FOREVER, WE REALLY.

WILL ARGUE FOREVER, WE REALLY  
HAVE A HEALTHY RURAL MINNESOTA,  HAVE A HEALTHY RURAL MINNESOTA,
AND YOU CAN HAVE COMMUNITIES.  AND YOU CAN HAVE COMMUNITIES    
THAT ARE REASONABLY HEALTHY AND.  THAT ARE REASONABLY HEALTHY AND
GOOD PLACES TO LOOK LOOK, AND WE.  GOOD PLACES TO LOOK LOOK, AND WE
HAVE ESSENTIAL SERVICES AND.

HAVE ESSENTIAL SERVICES AND    
LOCAL GOVERNMENT AID IS CENTRAL.  LOCAL GOVERNMENT AID IS CENTRAL
TO THAT.  TO THAT.                        
IT'S ALWAYS THE PROPERTY TAXES.

IT'S ALWAYS THE PROPERTY TAXES  
GO, AND I LIVE IN NORTH MANKATO,  GO, AND I LIVE IN NORTH MANKATO,
AND I WATCHED THE PROPERTY TAXES.  AND I WATCHED THE PROPERTY TAXES
GO UP AND UP AND UP, AND IT'S A.  GO UP AND UP AND UP, AND IT'S A
STEADY INCREASE, AND WE SAW THAT.  STEADY INCREASE, AND WE SAW THAT
STATEWIDE.

STATEWIDE.                      
WE MAY NOT HAVE LOWERED PROPERTY.  WE MAY NOT HAVE LOWERED PROPERTY
TAXES EVERYWHERE IN MINNESOTA IN.  TAXES EVERYWHERE IN MINNESOTA IN
THE LAST GO AROUND BUT WE DID.

THE LAST GO AROUND BUT WE DID  
BEND THE CURVE AND STABILIZE.  BEND THE CURVE AND STABILIZE    
THEM.  THEM.                          
I AM PERSONALLY A SUPPORTER FOR.

I AM PERSONALLY A SUPPORTER FOR
CONTINUING TO INCREASE IT, AND.  CONTINUING TO INCREASE IT, AND  
AGAIN, WE TALK ABOUT -- YET, WE.  AGAIN, WE TALK ABOUT -- YET, WE
HAVE TO FACE THE REALITY THAT.  HAVE TO FACE THE REALITY THAT  
THERE IS A DISPARITY IN PROPERTY.

THERE IS A DISPARITY IN PROPERTY
VALUES, AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT AID.  VALUES, AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT AID
IS AN EXCELLENT SOLUTION.  IS AN EXCELLENT SOLUTION.      
>> LET ME CLARIFY, THOUGH, LOCAL.

>> LET ME CLARIFY, THOUGH, LOCAL
GOVERNMENT AID IS VERY IMPORTANT.  GOVERNMENT AID IS VERY IMPORTANT
TO SOME COMMUNICATE, EXTREMELY.  TO SOME COMMUNICATE, EXTREMELY  
IMPORTANT.  IMPORTANT.

                   
THE THREE LARGEST LGA RECIPIENTS.  THE THREE LARGEST LGA RECIPIENTS
ARE MINNEAPOLIS, ST. PAUL AND.  ARE MINNEAPOLIS, ST.

PAUL AND  
DULUTH.  DULUTH.                        
I THINK IT MAY BE HARD PRESSED.  I THINK IT MAY BE HARD PRESSED  
TO SAY THEY ARE PROPERTY POOR.

TO SAY THEY ARE PROPERTY POOR  
DISTRICTS, AND IT IS INCREDIBLY.  DISTRICTS, AND IT IS INCREDIBLY
IMPORTANT, AND I AGREE WITH YOU.  IMPORTANT, AND I AGREE WITH YOU
100%.  100%.

                         
WE HAVE LONG PASSED THE TIME.  WE HAVE LONG PASSED THE TIME    
WHERE WE CAN JUST HAVE VIBRANT.  WHERE WE CAN JUST HAVE VIBRANT  
CITY CENTERS YOU BUT WE NEED TO.  CITY CENTERS YOU BUT WE NEED TO
HAVE A VIBRANT MINNESOTA IN ALL.

HAVE A VIBRANT MINNESOTA IN ALL
OF OUR DISTRICTS.  OF OUR DISTRICTS.              
>> DEVIL'S ADVOCATE PART OF ME.  >> DEVIL'S ADVOCATE PART OF ME  
SAYS IF YOU LOOK AT ST.

PAUL,  SAYS IF YOU LOOK AT ST. PAUL,  
ONE OF THE ISSUES YOU HAVE AT.  ONE OF THE ISSUES YOU HAVE AT  
ST. PAUL IS THE LARGE PERCENTAGE.

ST. PAUL IS THE LARGE PERCENTAGE
OF STATE GOVERNMENT PROPERTY,  OF STATE GOVERNMENT PROPERTY,  
AND THAT MIGHT BE A FACTOR HERE.  AND THAT MIGHT BE A FACTOR HERE
IN THIS CONVERSATION AS WELL.  IN THIS CONVERSATION AS WELL.

 
>> GOVERNMENT DOES KEEP GOING,  >> GOVERNMENT DOES KEEP GOING,  
UNFORTUNATELY.  UNFORTUNATELY.                  
>> SO WE HAVE A QUESTION FROM.  >> SO WE HAVE A QUESTION FROM  
THE VIEWER ABOUT ANOTHER TAX.

THE VIEWER ABOUT ANOTHER TAX.  
CIGARETTE TAX INCREASE.  CIGARETTE TAX INCREASE.        
THE VIEWER IS NOT ENTHUSIASTIC.

THE VIEWER IS NOT ENTHUSIASTIC  
ABOUT IT.  ABOUT IT.                      
YOU CAN SEE IOWA FROM THERE.  YOU CAN SEE IOWA FROM THERE.

 
THE VIEWER IS CONCERNED ABOUT.  THE VIEWER IS CONCERNED ABOUT  
LOSS OF JOBS, LOSS OF SALES,  LOSS OF JOBS, LOSS OF SALES,    
NOTING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT IN.  NOTING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT IN  
ST. LOUIS COUNTY.

ST. LOUIS COUNTY.              
THERE WAS AN ARTICLE IN THE STAR.  THERE WAS AN ARTICLE IN THE STAR
TRIBUNE ABOUT THE GOVERNOR'S.

TRIBUNE ABOUT THE GOVERNOR'S    
REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL CIGARETTE.  REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL CIGARETTE
TAX ENFORCEMENTS,, ENFORCEMENT.  TAX ENFORCEMENTS,, ENFORCEMENT  
EFFORTS.  EFFORTS.

                     
WHAT IS THE EFFECT FOR THE REST.  WHAT IS THE EFFECT FOR THE REST
OF THE STATE, AND WHAT ARE WE.  OF THE STATE, AND WHAT ARE WE  
GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?  GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?          
>> WE ACTUALLY HEARD THE.  >> WE ACTUALLY HEARD THE        
GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL, AND WHAT.

GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL, AND WHAT  
HE'S LOOKING TO DO IS HIRE MORE.  HE'S LOOKING TO DO IS HIRE MORE
FOLKS TO TRACK DOWN THE.  FOLKS TO TRACK DOWN THE        
SMUGGLERS, BECAUSE WHAT WE HAVE.  SMUGGLERS, BECAUSE WHAT WE HAVE
SEEN SINCE THE TAX WAS PUT IN.

SEEN SINCE THE TAX WAS PUT IN  
PLACE IS A HUGE INFLUX OF.  PLACE IS A HUGE INFLUX OF      
SMUGGLERS IMPACTING THE.  SMUGGLERS IMPACTING THE        
CIGARETTES FROM NORTH DAKOTA,  CIGARETTES FROM NORTH DAKOTA,  
YOU NAME THE STATE, AND ALL THE.  YOU NAME THE STATE, AND ALL THE
SURROUNDING BORDERS THAT THEY.

SURROUNDING BORDERS THAT THEY  
ARE DOING WHAT THEY SAID THEY.  ARE DOING WHAT THEY SAID THEY  
ARE GOING TO DO.  ARE GOING TO DO.                
I DON'T SMOKE, BUT FOLKS ARE.

I DON'T SMOKE, BUT FOLKS ARE    
BOUND AND DETERMINED TO GET.  BOUND AND DETERMINED TO GET    
THOSE, AND NOW WHAT WE ARE DOING.  THOSE, AND NOW WHAT WE ARE DOING
IS ENCOURAGING MORE COSTS FOR.  IS ENCOURAGING MORE COSTS FOR  
THE STATE TO TRACK DOWN THESE.

THE STATE TO TRACK DOWN THESE  
SMUGGLERS, AND IT'S ALSO HURTING.  SMUGGLERS, AND IT'S ALSO HURTING
OUR RETAILERS THAT ARE NOT.  OUR RETAILERS THAT ARE NOT      
ABIETDING BY THE LAW.  ABIETDING BY THE LAW.

         
IT'S A TAX THAT'S HITTING THE.  IT'S A TAX THAT'S HITTING THE  
RETAILERS, AND NOW WE ARE GOING.  RETAILERS, AND NOW WE ARE GOING
TO HAVE TO PAY MORE MONEY IN TO.  TO HAVE TO PAY MORE MONEY IN TO
ADDRESS THE ISSUE ON TOP OF IT.

ADDRESS THE ISSUE ON TOP OF IT.
WHEN THOSE FOLKS SAID THIS IS.  WHEN THOSE FOLKS SAID THIS IS  
GOING TO BE A GOOD THING, I.  GOING TO BE A GOOD THING, I    
THINK THAT'S PROBLEM ATTIC, AND.

THINK THAT'S PROBLEM ATTIC, AND
I THINK WHAT IS INTERESTING.  I THINK WHAT IS INTERESTING    
ABOUT THE CIGARETTE TAX, THEY.  ABOUT THE CIGARETTE TAX, THEY  
SAY THEY ARE NOT GOING TO.  SAY THEY ARE NOT GOING TO      
INFLUENCE SOMEBODY'S MOVE.

INFLUENCE SOMEBODY'S MOVE      
EVERYWHERE ELSE, AND IT'S TO.  EVERYWHERE ELSE, AND IT'S TO    
CHANGE PEOPLE'S BEHAVIOR.  CHANGE PEOPLE'S BEHAVIOR.      
IF WE THINK TAXES MORE ON.

IF WE THINK TAXES MORE ON      
CIGARETTES ARE GOING TO AFFECT.  CIGARETTES ARE GOING TO AFFECT  
BEHAVIOR, INCREASING TAXES AND.  BEHAVIOR, INCREASING TAXES AND  
SO FORTH.  SO FORTH.

                     
>> A FEW SECONDS.  >> A FEW SECONDS.              
VERY QUICKLY.  VERY QUICKLY.

                 
>> AWE INVITE YOU TO BE BACK WIH.  >> AWE INVITE YOU TO BE BACK WIH
US NEXT WEEK AND ALL THE WEEKS.  US NEXT WEEK AND ALL THE WEEKS  
THAT FOLLOW UNTIL THE.  THAT FOLLOW UNTIL THE          
LEGISLATURE GOES HOME.

LEGISLATURE GOES HOME.          
THANK YOU AND GOOD NIGHT.  THANK YOU AND GOOD NIGHT.      
>> THANK YOU.

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